Elk & Deer rifle thoughts

[2gr8dgs]

270? Don't those bounce off the hide on elk?
On a serious note, I might hedge my bet with a premium bullet like a partition or the like, but the cartridge is plenty capable, & a pleasure to shoot.

 

[357 MAX]

Silvies in the unit I drew.

Bull or Cow?

 

[HPL0]

The "Henry Long Ranger" in 308 is absolutely phenominal for a light weight, handy rifle

 

[osprey]

270? Don't those bounce off the hide on elk?
On a serious note, I might hedge my bet with a premium bullet like a partition or the like, but the cartridge is plenty capable, & a pleasure to shoot.

The elk I have shot with the .270 were all with 140 accubonds which performed great. Closest was under 50yds and furthest was 350yds.

 

[DeanMk]

I drew an elk tag this year for eastern Oregon. I'm new to hunting as I haven't shot >deer sized animal in honestly 20yrs. Obviously I'm not a hunting specialist or even shooting specialist, so I'd love to hear your thoughts.

I'm drawn towards a .270 as a rifle I could use for multiple hunts. I realize this maybe marginal for elk hunts but more than enough for deer. My budget style says choose one gun for both elk and deer. I realize there are many options (almost endless) so I'd only like to hear why the .270 is a poor choice (30-06 was the runner up.)

Thank you in advance.

My dad used a Remington 725 in .270 for about 20 years before he bought his .30-30.
It was mainly his deer rifle during that time, but he also used it successfully on some seals and Caribou.
His elk rifle was a 98 Mauser in 8mm with a jeweled bolt and a sporter stock.
I still have both guns.
If I were in your shoes, though and looking at a modern rifle, I don't think it gets any better than something chambered in 7mm-08.
I think the caliber is more than capable enough for both game and some of the rifles it's chambered in are fairly light and handy guns.
That's what I'd go with.

 

[NeoBlackdog]

The .270 Win beats the 7mm-08 in every metric. The rifle itself may weigh fractionally more, but the extra bit of performance is worth those couple of ounces.

 

[DeanMk]

...skip...

 

[DeanMk]

The .270 Win beats the 7mm-08 in every metric. The rifle itself may weigh fractionally more, but the extra bit of performance is worth those couple of ounces.

You can state your obvious love for the .270, without berating another's post.
Bad form Blackdog, bad form.

 

[fredball]

30-06.

 

[NeoBlackdog]

You can state your obvious love for the .270, without berating another's post.
Bad form Blackdog, bad form.

Sorry you took it that way. I was merely stating a fact.
And please tell me how the hell I berated your post?

 

[Spitpatch]

The .270 Win beats the 7mm-08 in every metric. The rifle itself may weigh fractionally more, but the extra bit of performance is worth those couple of ounces.

Well stated, with a reference to researchable data that buttress the opinion. Absent any derogatory reference to the competing cartridge or its (occasionally sensitive) supporters.

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[DeanMk]

Sorry you took it that way. I was merely stating a fact.
And please tell me how the hell I berated your post?

By quoting it.
You could've stated your viewpoint without quoting anyone.

 

[NeoBlackdog]

By quoting it.
You could've stated your viewpoint without quoting anyone.

I did not quote it. I mentioned the 7mm-08, but did not quote it.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Speaking only for myself here....

Lots of cartridges have been mentioned here in this thread.
Some I have used for hunting or shot...a few I haven't.
It does seem like any of the cartridges in the OP or those mentioned in the commenting posts.....
Will work for elk and deer...given proper shot placement and proper bullet selection.

Are any better than the others....?
Ehhh....better is always subjective to use , and personal likes or needs.
And while ballistic charts are useful... and should be consulted / compared...
They are not the end all and be all of a deciding factor for a cartridge's worth.
Something to consider is that game animals do not read ballistic charts....


In any event...
The OP was posted on July 10th.
A question was asked in the OP....
And even though the OP has been on NWFA since then....
No reply has yet been given by the OP .

While I understand that there is more to life than NWFA...
And it is summer time...with lots going on....
Asking a question...logging on...and yet not replying to any of the comments or answers....
Is a bit confusing to me .

Andy

 

[DeanMk]

I did not quote it. I mentioned the 7mm-08, but did not quote it.

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• DeanMk
• Feb 18, 2020

You're right.
Why did I think you quoted my post?
Anyway, my apologies. I will try to more observant in the future.

 

[tac]

270 and 30-06 are both great deer/elk cartridges. An added benefit is they are boring, been around cartridges, that get over looked by new fads. Used rifles in those cartridges tend to sell for cheaper.
30-06 would be my first choice. It has more options than 270 in rifles, ammunition and bullet selection.

Here in Europe and Scandinavia the 6.5x55 Swedish has been dropping our Elg - like a moose, but bigger - in their hoof-prints since late 1895.

There are some real whizzo modern bullets from the likes of Hirtenberger, RWS, Norma and sister Lapua that are sure-fire DRT pills for these large beasts.

Even the 7x57 Mauser with modern bullets seems to manage to take the meat home, and seems to have forgotten how 'outdated' it is.

Tell that to my old pal, Gregory V, a young award-winning ghillie of the year back when, and now and now senior groundman for a 35,000 acre estate up in Scotland. He still shoots his father's Rigby in .275 Rigby - the rather coy title of the 7x57 Mauser after WW1 made anything German a mite unpopular. Open hillsides mean stalking of a kind that has America sportsmen coming back year after year for the thrill of the crawl.

My own 1912-built 7.5x57 Mauser was used as a meat-getter in Rhodesia from 1913 to 1990. Everything from Kudu to Eland with the same 140gr RNSP.

 

[tac]

For Andy - why are my photos degraded when I put them in the post? They start off looking good and sharp, then, they go the way you see them above.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

For Andy - why are my photos degraded when I put them in the post? They start off looking good and sharp, then, they go the way you see them above.

tac ,
That would be a computer question.
Ifin' you want to know about muzzle loaders , I am your man , computers not so much.
For what it is worth I experience the same thing when posting pictures here at NWFA.
Andy

Edit to add...
Love that Mauser ( 1912 built )....a serious case of Rifle Lust
Andy

 

[monks]

Here in Europe and Scandinavia the 6.5x55 Swedish has been dropping our Elg - like a moose, but bigger - in their hoof-prints since late 1895.

There are some real whizzo modern bullets from the likes of Hirtenberger, RWS, Norma and sister Lapua that are sure-fire DRT pills for these large beasts.

Even the 7x57 Mauser with modern bullets seems to manage to take the meat home, and seems to have forgotten how 'outdated' it is.

Tell that to my old pal, Gregory V, a young award-winning ghillie of the year back when, and now and now senior groundman for a 35,000 acre estate up in Scotland. He still shoots his father's Rigby in .275 Rigby - the rather coy title of the 7x57 Mauser after WW1 made anything German a mite unpopular. Open hillsides mean stalking of a kind that has America sportsmen coming back year after year for the thrill of the crawl.

My own 1912-built 7.5x57 Mauser was used as a meat-getter in Rhodesia from 1913 to 1990. Everything from Kudu to Eland with the same 140gr RNSP.

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Maybe its just your eyes, it's not fuzzy to me. Eat more carrots, lol!

 

[tac]

You recall the story behind the Mauser, right?

It never gets old for me - best £120 I EVER spent on ANY gun I own.