Elk & Deer rifle thoughts

[NeoBlackdog]

9 out of 10 deer and elk surveyed said they prefer getting shot with the ubiquitous .308





True story!

That's because it bounced off! Duh!

 

[Pepe-lepew]

270 and 30-06 are both great deer/elk cartridges. An added benefit is they are boring, been around cartridges, that get over looked by new fads. Used rifles in those cartridges tend to sell for cheaper.
30-06 would be my first choice. It has more options than 270 in rifles, ammunition and bullet selection.

 

[Stomper]

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That's because it bounced off! Duh!

You just ain't usin' the correct gun for the caliber....

 

[Andy54Hawken]

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You just ain't usin' the correct gun for the caliber....

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I had a buddy of mine who was our Regimental Armorer.
He called me over to his office to show me a few things.

One of the three was a Singer 1911A1...we were still using the 1911A1 in my unit at that time
Neat to see one.
The other two were M-60's , that until he found them...were not on any book or inventory record.
Not going to lie....was so very tempted to have any one of them follow me home....
Needless to say that never happened.
Andy

 

[Stomper]

I had a buddy of mine who was our Regimental Armorer.
He called me over to his office to show me a few things.

One of the three was a Singer 1911A1...we were still using the 1911A1 in my unit at that time
Neat to see one.
The other two were M-60's , that until he found them...were not on any book or inventory record.
Not going to lie....was so very tempted to have any one of them follow me home....
Needless to say that never happened.
Andy

I'll always have a soft spot for the M60...


I had a similar schituation concerning the FCG and BCG for some A1 16's.....

Thought better of it.... one thing about Big Green, paperwork has a weird habit of rematerializing after 10-20 changes of unit command, and SOMEONE better have legit answers!

 

[P7M13]

Needless to say that never happened.

Sez you!

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Sez you!

Yep...
Something about a felony ...and as Stomper stated...these things have a way of turning up somewhere on record...
And you better damn well have an answer.

Was fun to think about for a hot minute or two however.

There was one time when a former Lieutenant was going to cut me in on a bank heist behind enemy lines....
But that is another story .....
Hmmm...that might make for an epic movie....
Andy

 

[Stomper]

Yep...
Something about a felony ...and as Stomper stated...these things have a way of turning up somewhere on record...
And you better damn well have an answer.

Was fun to think about for a hot minute or two however.

There was one time when a former Lieutenant was going to cut me in on a bank heist behind enemy lines....
But that is another story .....
Hmmm...that might make for an epic movie....
Andy

Those damned SS tank commanders!!

 

[NeoBlackdog]

Yep...
Something about a felony ...and as Stomper stated...these things have a way of turning up somewhere on record...
And you better damn well have an answer.

Was fun to think about for a hot minute or two however.

There was one time when a former Lieutenant was going to cut me in on a bank heist behind enemy lines....
But that is another story .....
Hmmm...that might make for an epic movie....
Andy

Kelly? Is that you?

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Kelly? Is that you?

More like this guy....
Andy

 

[RVTECH]

You just ain't usin' the correct gun for the caliber....

LOL! I've 'used' one! - Not for elk!

 

[Stomper]

LOL! I've 'used' one! - Not for elk!

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I just see a buncha smilin' beach-bums who are all in sore need of haircuts and shaves....

 

[NeoBlackdog]

Sooo... Anywho... That .270 will be just fine. Put a good scope on it (I run a Leupold 2.5-8 on mine), learn your maximum range (IMNSHO for most that's inside 200 yards), use quality ammo and practice practice practice!

 

[Unavailable_NA]

I've taken quite a few elk with the .270. It'll do the job if you work within it's parameters and get out there and practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice practice.
What unit is your tag for?

Silvies in the unit I drew.

 

[NeoBlackdog]

Silvies in the unit I drew.

Used to hunt it quite a bit back in the '70's and '80's. At the time it was hard not to trip over an elk!
Your .270 will do just fine there if you take the time to learn to shoot it well.

 

[monks]

Many an elk has been killed with the old green box Remington core lokt bullets out of 270 or 30-06. 30-06 is my choice but I wouldn't feel under gunned with a 270. If you're making ethical shots at ethical ranges you won't ever need more rifle.

 

[3MTA3]

Many an elk has been killed with the old green box Remington core lokt bullets out of 270 or 30-06. 30-06 is my choice but I wouldn't feel under gunned with a 270. If you're making ethical shots at ethical ranges you won't ever need more rifle.

The only reason to go bigger, IMO, is if you are hunting in an areas that have predators big and tough enough that these rounds won't kill them quickly enough so they are able to kill you back. Not many of those to be found in the lower 50 and definitely none in Oregon.

 

[monks]

The only reason to go bigger, IMO, is if you are hunting in an areas that have predators big and tough enough that these rounds won't kill them quickly enough so they are able to kill you back. Not many of those to be found in the lower 50 and definitely none in Oregon.

Agreed. If griz were in our woods I'd be more interested in magnums.

 

[Spitpatch]

The only reason to go bigger, IMO, is if you are hunting in an areas that have predators big and tough enough that these rounds won't kill them quickly enough so they are able to kill you back. Not many of those to be found in the lower 50 and definitely none in Oregon.

Agreed. If griz were in our woods I'd be more interested in magnums.

On multiple Alaska expeditions and nearly a lifetime hunting in Montana, I have shared hunting environments with Mountain Grizzlies, Alaska Browns, and Wolves. At least one Grizzly was seen every day while Sheep hunting, Wolves in camp on Caribou hunts. Shock wire around the cook tent in the Bob Marshal Wilderness.

My "Big Gun" is a .270. (I have larger calibers, but this is my "go-to" for its demonstrated power and effectiveness.)

I never felt my weaponry to be inadequate against any animal threat, but when in those environments always conducted myself in a fashion to never have to test it.

During my archery hunts, I had a .357 or .41 revolver with me and felt just as safe (and acted just as cautiously).

"Magnum" attached to a cartridge's name does nothing in a pinch. Shooting does. A dude with a belted magnum arriving to be guided in the Bob always was ushered early on to a hundred yard target by we guides and wranglers. This practice was almost always justified by the dude's performance there, and we gained information toward what that customer would need in regard to getting him within his capable range and shooting position.

I cannot recall ever requiring this from a dude arriving with a .270 or .30-06. Boss Lady Mary Faith ran the outfit until 75 years of age, and packed a Savage 99 in .284 for 50 years. Attacked on horseback by a Boar Grizzly, she suffered a hip fracture in the fall from her horse, and STILL managed to drop that Griz with one shot, caught her horse and rode the 24 miles back to town for medical attention and to dutifully report the demise of the Bruin.

 

[bcp]

Don't ever "shoot at an elk."

Shoot at a particular spot on an elk.

Put a good bullet there, then collect your elk.

You don't have to show your cartridge headstamp to the elk first.

Bruce