Do you know how easy it is to get a restraining order and how it messes you up?

[supergenius]

Im actually going to file a report on some one as a preemptive measure towards one on this clown that my ex rebounded with when I kind of walked away from her.....

Dude is bubbleguming bubbleguming nuts (like clinically), some MMA dude; caught him stalking her (we worked out our bubblegum and are trying to work things out), he showed up at her house today, then at a coffee shop he knows she goes to... ACTING A FOOL

Crappy part is that Iv known girl for 6 years, dated for 1 year and had some issues (She couldnt stay sober and be honest about it which is a deal breaker with me). I called her on it, stepped back, she goes to the bar gets messed up, starts seeing dude for a few weeks. This guy has known her for 3 weeks, shes TOLD him all it was was a rebound and that Shes in love with me, and cCANT be with him anyways due to his drinking and bubblegum (shes a recovering addict).Hes PSychiotic and crying to her how he loves her and all this crazy ish. Hed threatened her that he was going to cut me before, todays outburst was that id look good with broken legs.

I look better with the XD40, or the PT145 I carry ALL THE TIME... And really dont want to get into a situation to where this guy gets stupid and I am forced to "defend myself by any means neccessary".

He had a chance to come at me today and didnt, and I know he doesnt know I carry, but the whole possibility of the situation getting bad has me concerned. Shes told him to leave her alone... Hes not. Im not going to tel lhim anything. If he steps to me, I just hope I dont do anything stupid.

 

[powersbj]

Your a good man gunner, integrity is a rare commodity these days. Not in the persuit of revenge, but in the intrest of your father and on his behalf. Can you file a restraining order to protect him?

 

[Trlsmn]

Im actually going to file a report on some one as a preemptive measure towards one on this clown that my ex rebounded with when I kind of walked away from her.....

Dude is bubbleguming bubbleguming nuts (like clinically), some MMA dude; caught him stalking her (we worked out our bubblegum and are trying to work things out), he showed up at her house today, then at a coffee shop he knows she goes to... ACTING A FOOL

Crappy part is that Iv known girl for 6 years, dated for 1 year and had some issues (She couldnt stay sober and be honest about it which is a deal breaker with me). I called her on it, stepped back, she goes to the bar gets messed up, starts seeing dude for a few weeks. This guy has known her for 3 weeks, shes TOLD him all it was was a rebound and that Shes in love with me, and cCANT be with him anyways due to his drinking and bubblegum (shes a recovering addict).Hes PSychiotic and crying to her how he loves her and all this crazy ish. Hed threatened her that he was going to cut me before, todays outburst was that id look good with broken legs.

I look better with the XD40, or the PT145 I carry ALL THE TIME... And really dont want to get into a situation to where this guy gets stupid and I am forced to "defend myself by any means neccessary".

He had a chance to come at me today and didnt, and I know he doesnt know I carry, but the whole possibility of the situation getting bad has me concerned. Shes told him to leave her alone... Hes not. Im not going to tel lhim anything. If he steps to me, I just hope I dont do anything stupid.

After reading that I would say to cut your losses and put her in the past man, these things always end badly! She's a loser and will drag you down with her. She doesn't love you as evident by the fact that she's dating someone else, she's using you, don't be a puppet, life is too short.

Plenty of fresh fish in the sea why would you want to deal with distressed merchandise? Are you a sadist? Sorry to be blunt but this story has played itself out millions of times, trust me there is no upside to this situation but there is plenty of downside.

 

[Stomper]

I should have been a lawyer

Naw, don't do that, then we'd all have to despise you too!!

 

[Stomper]

The closest I can get to that is some dirty Popeye jokes!!

 

[Redcap]

Im actually going to file a report on some one as a preemptive measure towards one on this clown that my ex rebounded with when I kind of walked away from her.....

Dude is bubbleguming bubbleguming nuts (like clinically), some MMA dude; caught him stalking her (we worked out our bubblegum and are trying to work things out), he showed up at her house today, then at a coffee shop he knows she goes to... ACTING A FOOL

Crappy part is that Iv known girl for 6 years, dated for 1 year and had some issues (She couldnt stay sober and be honest about it which is a deal breaker with me). I called her on it, stepped back, she goes to the bar gets messed up, starts seeing dude for a few weeks. This guy has known her for 3 weeks, shes TOLD him all it was was a rebound and that Shes in love with me, and cCANT be with him anyways due to his drinking and bubblegum (shes a recovering addict).Hes PSychiotic and crying to her how he loves her and all this crazy ish. Hed threatened her that he was going to cut me before, todays outburst was that id look good with broken legs.

I look better with the XD40, or the PT145 I carry ALL THE TIME... And really dont want to get into a situation to where this guy gets stupid and I am forced to "defend myself by any means neccessary".

He had a chance to come at me today and didnt, and I know he doesnt know I carry, but the whole possibility of the situation getting bad has me concerned. Shes told him to leave her alone... Hes not. Im not going to tel lhim anything. If he steps to me, I just hope I dont do anything stupid.

Bail. It isn't worth it.

 

[Gunner3456]

You're lucky he's got the Medicare. Let's hope Medicaid doesn't get cut. Where would a guy like your father be without government health care?

Without those two, he'd be with VA. He was at Normandy, fought through France and was wounded in Belgium. He has a purple heart and a bronze star.

Don't forget, we all paid for medicare out of our paychecks all our lives and he certainly earned his VA.

Before I'd let him go to VA, I'd pay the bills myself though.

 

[AMProducts]

It's definately true that a nothing brings out the bad in people like a dying relative.

However, as a segue into Supergenius' topic...

Last year I had a friend of mine, who developed an addiction problem with prescription drugs. It became a major issue and I stopped talking to him. Then some months later he showed up at a regular meeting I go to and physically attacked me in front of everyone.

While I had a deep carnal urge to pound his face into strawberry colored ooze, I fought it off, and did the bare minimum to get him to leave me alone, and then called the cops. After filing a police report, I then filed a restraining order. A major component of this, is so if he decides a round 2 is necessary I am perfectly within my legal right to defend myself to the fullest extent I see necessary. (I'm already the victim waaah)

While your state probably varies, here in CA getting a restraining order is rather easy... you have to fill out a bunch of paperwork, and get a temporary restraining order in front of the judge. The person is then served with the paperwork and a court date. During this time, they are not allowed to posess firearms, and there is a form that details they have sold their firearms to a licensed dealer (no PPT in CA). However, typically under the temporary selling the guns isn't necessary, but making them unavailible is. If the order becomes permanent, then you need to get rid of them.

The lesson I learned from this and a few other similar situations friends have had, when someone is crazy, unstable or violent you want to make the police aware of it as soon as possible. Frankly Gunny, you should have called the police on your relative when she was trying to take off with the car. If an altercation develops, you want to be explaining how you filed a police report about this person last week. You do not want your first contact with the police to be you standing over a dead body with bullet/knife wounds explaining how "they attacked me first". It is much better to be saying "they attacked me first, here is a copy of the police report".

While I don't want to sound overly litigious on this post, it is important to note that we all pay a lot of money in taxes to support the police, and when you are facing a situation that could escalate, this is just the kind of thing we pay for, and every professional police officer is more than happy to help you out.

I know you've been through a lot Gunner, but I would encourage you to seek a restraining order on behalf of the trust, and your father against this relative if you think there is any possibility of them resurfacing. While you have your own interests to protect, this would be a very solid legal way of protecting your father against this kind of abuse and it helps establish a paper trail when in the future you have to deal with more bubblegum.

Best of luck.

 

[Gunner3456]

It's definately true that a nothing brings out the bad in people like a dying relative.

However, as a segue into Supergenius' topic...

Last year I had a friend of mine, who developed an addiction problem with prescription drugs. It became a major issue and I stopped talking to him. Then some months later he showed up at a regular meeting I go to and physically attacked me in front of everyone.

While I had a deep carnal urge to pound his face into strawberry colored ooze, I fought it off, and did the bare minimum to get him to leave me alone, and then called the cops. After filing a police report, I then filed a restraining order. A major component of this, is so if he decides a round 2 is necessary I am perfectly within my legal right to defend myself to the fullest extent I see necessary. (I'm already the victim waaah)

While your state probably varies, here in CA getting a restraining order is rather easy... you have to fill out a bunch of paperwork, and get a temporary restraining order in front of the judge. The person is then served with the paperwork and a court date. During this time, they are not allowed to posess firearms, and there is a form that details they have sold their firearms to a licensed dealer (no PPT in CA). However, typically under the temporary selling the guns isn't necessary, but making them unavailible is. If the order becomes permanent, then you need to get rid of them.

The lesson I learned from this and a few other similar situations friends have had, when someone is crazy, unstable or violent you want to make the police aware of it as soon as possible. Frankly Gunny, you should have called the police on your relative when she was trying to take off with the car. If an altercation develops, you want to be explaining how you filed a police report about this person last week. You do not want your first contact with the police to be you standing over a dead body with bullet/knife wounds explaining how "they attacked me first". It is much better to be saying "they attacked me first, here is a copy of the police report".

While I don't want to sound overly litigious on this post, it is important to note that we all pay a lot of money in taxes to support the police, and when you are facing a situation that could escalate, this is just the kind of thing we pay for, and every professional police officer is more than happy to help you out.

I know you've been through a lot Gunner, but I would encourage you to seek a restraining order on behalf of the trust, and your father against this relative if you think there is any possibility of them resurfacing. While you have your own interests to protect, this would be a very solid legal way of protecting your father against this kind of abuse and it helps establish a paper trail when in the future you have to deal with more bubblegum.

Best of luck.

Naw, there was no violence. My sister only asked to borrow Dad's car while she was visiting here. I denied it and locked it in my garage. She never came and tried to get it. Dad doesn't drive so I didn't deprive him of anything, and the charge was "elder financial abuse" which doesn't include anything between me and my sister which is part of why I won.

My sister then took my Dad to his attorney to try to figure out a way Dad could give her the car and the attorney told her no since I'm the trustee and the car belongs to the trust.

Next the restraining order was filed charging me, but since I'm the trustee and the car belongs to the trust, I was cleared. There's a bit more to it than that, but it's all the same crap.

Dad doesn't even remember going to the attorney with my sister and her trying to get the car, but it happened. My attorney put Dad's attorney on the witness stand and made him say that this was all true. Since my sister isn't his client, there's no confidentiality about what she did and he had to tell the story.

It's a mess.

 

[Stomper]

No.... your sister is a mess.

Sorry for your trouble, brother. There are fewer things that suck worse than having to fight off "family members gone bad".

 

[Riot]

After reading that I would say to cut your losses and put her in the past man, these things always end badly! She's a loser and will drag you down with her. She doesn't love you as evident by the fact that she's dating someone else, she's using you, don't be a puppet, life is too short.

Plenty of fresh fish in the sea why would you want to deal with distressed merchandise? Are you a sadist? Sorry to be blunt but this story has played itself out millions of times, trust me there is no upside to this situation but there is plenty of downside.

There it is right there...my thoughts exactly. You either avoid the drama or you deal with the drama...AMProducts is complaining about getting wet while trolling in a boat.

 

[Atroxus]

Wow that story makes me sick to even consider. Stuff like that is why I think that judges/juries should have the power to rule a civil suit as frivolous, dismiss it and immediately make the plaintiff(s) pay 200% of all costs incurred by by the defendant(s). Maybe that would reduce the number of ppl that try to abuse our legal system as a form of revenge. Sounds like your dad sure picked the right family member as trustee though.

 

[xymotic]

I've had 2 people try to get restraining orders against me.


BOTH times it was a legal tactic used to try and distract another judge in a different jurisdiction (I was evicting one guy, and I was the Plaintiff in a sexual harassment case).

BOTH times it was a HUGE PITA and very, VERY stressful.

Thankfully in my case the Judge BS meter was working and they were both tossed. But If I was 'convicted' either time it would have cost me untold thousands.

 

[AMProducts]

There it is right there...my thoughts exactly. You either avoid the drama or you deal with the drama...AMProducts is complaining about getting wet while trolling in a boat.

Perhaps I should refine my position a bit... When dealing with bubblegum from anyone, especially in cases where things could get legal (violence, family financial fights etc) you should call the cops first, and always file a report. This covers you from the potential for litigation in case it escalates to a restraining order, whether it's you getting it against them, or them trying to get it against you. The one who calls the cops first is always has a lower bar.

 

[CEF1959]

Without those two, he'd be with VA. He was at Normandy, fought through France and was wounded in Belgium. He has a purple heart and a bronze star.

Don't forget, we all paid for medicare out of our paychecks all our lives and he certainly earned his VA.

Before I'd let him go to VA, I'd pay the bills myself though.

Haha. Good one. We all know that current payors pay the Medicare and Medicaid of current users. But as everyone knows, the idea that someone currently receiving benefits has fully paid for his or her Medicare/Medicaid/VA care is a fallacy.

But you knew that, I'm sure. You were just telling a joke. Some people may have not realized you were kidding.

 

[CEF1959]

Where would he be if he didn't have to pay for medicade all his working life? Probably $200,000 richer!

Medicade? Huh? What is that?

You don't understand the difference between Medicaid and Medicare. And you also don't understand that a person's Medicare historical contributions do NOT pay for current benefits. Medicaid is paid from the current budget, and if the OP's father draws on Medicaid (as he suggests is coming), that's pure welfare. The OP's father is currently relying on government health care now and looking for other government health care as a safety net. No getting around it.

If you're going to post about this stuff, please make sure you know what you are talking about.

 

[Trlsmn]

Medicade? Huh? What is that?

You don't understand the difference between Medicaid and Medicare. And you also don't understand that a person's Medicare historical contributions do NOT pay for current benefits. Medicaid is paid from the current budget, and if the OP's father draws on Medicaid (as he suggests is coming), that's pure welfare. The OP's father is currently relying on government health care now and looking for other government health care as a safety net. No getting around it.

If you're going to post about this stuff, please make sure you know what you are talking about.

I'll bet you were jumping around doing that happy dance proclaiming "I've cornered Trlsmn!"

Well allow me to retort and be the killjoy!

Had you read and understood my post you would have understood that, unlike your typical Democrat liberal thoughts here, and your statement, Medicaid isn't free! Though it is typical of those that have derived most of their income from a government funded check to assume that all this is free money, people indeed do pay for it.

This man did work hard throughout his life, be it directly or indirectly he did pay for it, had he not been forced by socialists to pay for this and all the other government waste he would likely have and extra $200,000 in the bank to spend as he see's fit.

Now was that simple enough for you or should I get out my penny jar and start with basic math like I did for my children when they were in kindergarten?

 

[Gunner3456]

We all pay for medicare all of our working lives and seniors get it. Medicaid is "welfare." Medicare doesn't pay for nursing homes so the senior has to pay out of pocket. If that $6k per month eventually breaks the senior, he can then switch to medicaid which will pay for nursing homes. At that point medicaid pays all of is medical bills and medicare is out of the picture.

I don't know what if anything VA would do, but I'd never send my father there even if it's an option. I do know that VA pays for his hearing aids and a few other things that medicare also won't pay for.

 

[009]

it seams that the state should take it upon themselves to persue some type of wrongful
charge alligation to stop herassment such as this. that way people will think twice before making such alligations to tie up our court system. after all its the tax payers who pay. you metioned she flew in, probably not on a broom so she must have came from another state.

 

[TANSTAAFL]

You know the most horrible part about reading this whole thread was, for me, they were related. WTF. You handled it well, I know when legal issues and family blood mix you get one vicious cocktail.

I count myself very lucky to have the tight knit family that I do. Chinga, I am the most liberal off-beat one of the family.