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1 How are you going to arm teachers without $$
2 you're correct, there's nothing funny about that
3 An unarmed grandfather tackled Ronald Reagan's shooter
Ahh yes, a solution for the land of the freePut schools on lock down every single day, single point entry with armed security and a means to stop any threat at that single point! Done deal, make the schools impenetrable and the tangos go shoot up a Starbucks instead!
Don't Have to arm teachers at that point, if no one can get in, no kids are gitting shot, pretty simple says me!!
Build a serious fence around the grounds, with entrances and exits monitored, and kids are not likely to get shot comming and going, I bet that' a hell of a lot cheaper to do then the insurance riders for armed staff!
Put schools on lock down every single day, single point entry with armed security and a means to stop any threat at that single point! Done deal, make the schools impenetrable and the tangos go shoot up a Starbucks instead!
Don't Have to arm teachers at that point, if no one can get in, no kids are gitting shot, pretty simple says me!!
Build a serious fence around the grounds, with entrances and exits monitored, and kids are not likely to get shot comming and going, I bet that' a hell of a lot cheaper to do then the insurance riders for armed staff!
So, do you buy your own ccw because that's a new policy/job requirement? It seems like if you're leo, they provide you with one. A gun that is, unless you're in administration. Wonderful that you and hundreds of leo don't have problems shooting people. Doesn't mean it's not a problem. And someone unarmed acted. Kinda takes the good guy with a gun narrative away. Cause there were good guys with guns all around.
Then there is me too. A gun owner who also thinks enough is enough and would give up his black guns if it would save one school from this carnage. This is a forum where we exchange ideas. There is more than one way of thinking and No regrets is not expressing something that other gun owners haven't thought about. Our kids are more important to me than my right to keep an assault weapon and that's from someone who owns more than a few of them. In the meantime let's harden the schools, maintain a centralized data base with mandatory reporting of any encounter with law enforcement or mental health and increase police authority to suspend someone's firearm rights when they observe wacked behaviors subject to a hearing. We have got to do better or they'll do it for us in a way we won't like.What else do you do on a forum? This isn't the continental congress, its a bunch of people socializing that have a common interest in guns.
Then there's you.
Then there is me too. A gun owner who also thinks enough is enough and would give up his black guns if it would save one school from this carnage. This is a forum where we exchange ideas. There is more than one way of thinking and No regrets is not expressing something that other gun owners haven't thought about. Our kids are more important to me than my right to keep an assault weapon and that's from someone who owns more than a few of them. In the meantime let's harden the schools, maintain a centralized data base with mandatory reporting of any encounter with law enforcement or mental health and increase police authority to suspend someone's firearm rights when they observe wacked behaviors subject to a hearing. We have got to do better or they'll do it for us in a way we won't like.
You think this pos could have done this with a Remington 700 BDL or my Model 64 Winchester? I don't think so.By all means, tell me how you or me (who isn't going to hurt anyone), giving up semi autos is going to stop a bad guy?
That's like me getting neutered to stop someone else from raping.
He could have, but he wouldn't have killed 17 and wounded 14 more. Look, I appreciate being able to own firearms including those class 3 weapons that require a little more scrutiny. I'm not advocating for confiscation. But when I hear some butt hole tell me that the price of those freedoms is dead kids,that leaves me a little cold. There are things we can do besides banning semi-automatic weapons.He could have done it with a bicycle lock, a gallon of gas and a match.
Again, how are good guys giving up semi autos going to stop bad guys?
"we have got to do better or they'll do it for us in a way we won't like" This hits the nail on the head.
There are things we can do besides banning semi-automatic weapons.
We just need to start doing them.
Nope, I didn't say that. I quoted a portion of a members position that rang true. It's true. Screaming crises actors and George Soros just makes gun owners look unhinged. Hell, a few years back a member of this forum did a mass shooting and suicide. I don't want to say who, in case I get the wrong guy. But to anyone planning a murder/suicide remember to do the suicide part first.So we have to give up semi autos or they might pass a law we won't like. Wtf