Dang, don't steal coffee in Japan

[ilikegunspdx]

Man paid for small but filled a large 3 times. Store Called cops and he loses his $133,000 pension.

Japanese school principal fired, loses $133K pension after getting caught stealing less than 50 cents worth of coffee

One person said: “He could have bought like 100,000 large coffees with those retirement benefits he lost.”

nypost.com

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[Alexx1401]

Damn! While sad it shows how so often people will do stuff like this for seemingly no real reason. I have to guess he could easily afford to pay for the damn coffee. I guess he will be thinking about his choices for a good while to come.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Damn! While sad it shows how so often people will do stuff like this for seemingly no real reason. I have to guess he could easily afford to pay for the damn coffee. I guess he will be thinking about his choices for a good while to come.

What struck me is the contrast with here. Lady kills man by stabbing him 108 times but is set free because she was under the influence of weed.



There they are punished for such a tiny offense.

 

[CamoDeafie]

It's Japan. The place which has unusually high suicide rates, very stern authoritian cultural attitudes and a pervasive need to conform, to comply, and obey/submit to authority... as well as an incredibly high pressure to academic excellency, to work hard, and to elevate ones position through hard work and self sacrifice. of course small offenses gets treated overwhelmingly harsh.

Edit, on the flip side, they've got some of the most messed up art and adult content

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Pie mei is not a fan

View: https://youtu.be/fCbf4DjlHuM?si=2gg6YFZqY77XHa_C

 

[Flopsweat]

A very large software company where I worked, a developer stole a few computers and sold them on ebay. He of course got caught, prosecuted and fired. Lost his 6-figure job at a prestigious employer, lost his pension, had to pay restitution, and has a felony on his record now. And for what? A few thousand dollars.

 

[Alexx1401]

A very large software company where I worked, a developer stole a few computers and sold them on ebay. He of course got caught, prosecuted and fired. Lost his 6-figure job at a prestigious employer, lost his pension, had to pay restitution, and has a felony on his record now. And for what? A few thousand dollars.

I have seen this kind of thing all my life and it always has me shaking my head in wonder. While back a school teacher here was caught stealing kids coats to sell. Kids are forever leaving coats at school. She was taking them home and selling them online. When caught she of course lost her job and no school will ever hire her now. So all the schooling was worth nothing. Probably best one was a woman who was the 2nd in command at a place I worked. She was VERY well paid. She was skimming from the old guy she worked for for years. When they caught her they could prove she took almost 2 million over a period of about 7 years. They gave her 14 years in prison for it. She was like 65 when she went in and had to do something like 11 of the sentence. It's like damn people, really?

 

[BrentN]

By contrast, my local Safeway leaves stacks of soda just inside the door so the drug addicted scums can help themselves. The theory being that they will just steal that and leave without going through the store. Doesn't seem to work of course - while spending the few minutes in the checkout line, I watched not one but two people exit the store with full carts without paying, right out of the aisle and straight out the door. A buzzer goes off as they go through some recently installed cattle guard looking device, but nobody bats an eye.

 

[rgold1963]

By contrast, my local Safeway leaves stacks of soda just inside the door so the drug addicted scums can help themselves. The theory being that they will just steal that and leave without going through the store. Doesn't seem to work of course - while spending the few minutes in the checkout line, I watched not one but two people exit the store with full carts without paying, right out of the aisle and straight out the door. A buzzer goes off as they go through some recently installed cattle guard looking device, but nobody bats an eye.

Allen St?

 

[Alexx1401]

By contrast, my local Safeway leaves stacks of soda just inside the door so the drug addicted scums can help themselves. The theory being that they will just steal that and leave without going through the store. Doesn't seem to work of course - while spending the few minutes in the checkout line, I watched not one but two people exit the store with full carts without paying, right out of the aisle and straight out the door. A buzzer goes off as they go through some recently installed cattle guard looking device, but nobody bats an eye.

The best part of that is everyone who does pay gets to also pay for the stuff the scum walk off with

 

[Flopsweat]

The best part of that is everyone who does pay gets to also pay for the stuff the scum walk off with

New city ordinance: Any citizen who can articulate a clear, reasonable belief that a person is actively stealing from or otherwise defrauding a local business, may use any reasonable force necessary to subdue said person and or stop said theft or fraud.

I'm no lawyer, so I've surely messed up somewhere in there, but you get the picture.

 

[Capn Jack]

Our local Safeway has a device that at the check stand that unlocks a device that locks the wheels if the cart goes out the door.

The shopping center in Nanaimo CAN. has a buried wire around the parking lot that locks the wheels if you push the cart over it. (Like an invisible fence)

 

[Koda]

New city ordinance: Any citizen who can articulate a clear, reasonable belief that a person is actively stealing from or otherwise defrauding a local business, may use any reasonable force necessary to subdue said person and or stop said theft or fraud.

I'm no lawyer, so I've surely messed up somewhere in there, but you get the picture.

Isnt that already a law, citizens arrest?

 

[Flopsweat]

Isnt that already a law, citizens arrest?

Like I said, not a lawyer.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

A note worth reading on citizens arrest. Compare to "Detain until police arrive".

First, you should contact a gun rights or criminal defense lawyer for a specific briefing on "citizen's arrest".

The following is based on California law, procedures, etc.
In California its technical term in private persons arrest. You can arrest for felonies and/or misdemeanors committed in your presence. if you do this, you are liable for your actions. .You simply tell the person "I'm placing you under private persons arrest for violating _____", or something similar. Citizens arrest is acceptable at this stage. The law is silent on how you detain the person until law enforcement arrives, but the method of detention must be reasonable. Almost every department has a card (City PD I started with had a 3x5 card) or form to be filled out. technically the officer can issue a citation (cite & release). He puts you down as arresting officer and himself as issuing officer. In any case we would have the citizen approach the suspect and say the statement above.

All California peace officers are required by law to accept any person placed under citizens arrest. Once the officer accepts, they have three choices - 1) book into jail - generally used with felonies; 2) Cite and release; or 3) release the subject due to insufficient grounds for a criminal complaint. Most departments have a policy/procedure for submitting reports to the District Attorney for possible issuance of arrest warrant, but this 4th choice is policy, not law like the first three.

In my experience (35 yrs railroad police, city PD, state police/highway patrol) I preferred the citizen "detained" the subject for me. This saves the citizen some civil liability for the detention, rather than an arrest. And allowed me some time to question involved parties, inspect damage, crime scenes, etc. As the law is written, once the citizen says "That guy did it, and I placed him under citizen arrest", my options are limited to the three.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Don't steal coffee from this fella either....

As a side note...
While these skits were funny...whoever thought up the idea of giving John Belushi a sharp sword and said :
" Do something funny with it"....Was a brave soul.....
Andy

 

[ktgee]

In Portland, A lot of thieves are violent and loud especially if you are not the police. In my opinion, getting involved with somebody's else business is not wise. The business is not going to reward you. If something happens to you or the thief, it's all on you and the store is not responsible for your actions. If you hurt the thief, you may get sued. If you get hurt, it's your problem.

Used to work at a major supermarket and theft is a normal part of the operation. As employees, we witness these actions every day. We are not to engage or touch any thief or we will get terminated. Just report it to the supervisor or security and move on. Most of the time the thieves get away and if they get caught, they just simply give up the stolen goods and they get to go home to do it again with no police report. Most of the time the police get called if resisting and violence are involved.

 

[solv3nt]

In Portland, A lot of thieves are violent and loud especially if you are not the police. In my opinion, getting involved with somebody's else business is not wise. The business is not going to reward you. If something happens to you or the thief, it's all on you and the store is not responsible for your actions. If you hurt the thief, you may get sued. If you get hurt, it's your problem.

Used to work at a major supermarket and theft is a normal part of the operation. As employees, we witness these actions every day. We are not to engage or touch any thief or we will get terminated. Just report it to the supervisor or security and move on. Most of the time the thieves get away and if they get caught, they just simply give up the stolen goods and they get to go home to do it again with no police report. Most of the time the police get called if resisting and violence are involved.

^ This. If you pull the citizens arrest, expect to get in a tangle with the scum and you will likely be arrested at the same time. The scum won't likely get charges from the DA while you will.