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D. Wilson Manufacturing (AKA the AR Bolt Guru)

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by IronMonster, Mar 10, 2015.

  1. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    So I would venture most of you dont know about these guys, I didn't. They are a small manufacturer that is producing several thousand Bolt carrier groups a month for various gun manufactures and builders. I dont know who uses his bolts but if you look at the pictures on a bunch of web sites you can get a pretty good idea I think.

    Anyway, He has some really nice quality stuff for pretty small bucks on his site, Much cheaper than if you buy it with someone else name on it. He has run some specials on demo's or seconds that where really smokin deals.

    He also has just put up DPMS pattern .308 bolt spare parts kits and even spare bolts. The only place I am aware of that is doing spare kits for the .308

    Anyway seems like a great guy and a great company

    http://www.dwilsonmfg.com/store/c1/Featured_Products.html
     
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  2. Classic

    Classic Federal Way WA Well-Known Member

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    That's a nice price on a NiB BCG. Have you torture tested any of his components?
     
  3. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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  4. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    If you zoom in on the far right image on the Bolt Carrier Group page, the bolt has very visible dents and machine marks on it:

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  5. oli700

    oli700 Rogue Valley Well-Known Member

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    Guru machining is usually cleaner
     
  6. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    Well, I think a blown up picture is not a very good judge of quality. But I do admit that does not look so hot.
     
  7. oli700

    oli700 Rogue Valley Well-Known Member

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    Yes it is a judge of machining skill or lack of......atleast tool sharpening and changing ability and if that's the one they want to offer for pictures to be looked at by perspective customers I wouldn't want to see the ones they aren't presenting for customer inspection
     
  8. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    Never Trust a website that doesn't have contact info.
     
  9. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    I was inspecting more pics, definitely looks like piss poor machining on the bolt lugs.
     
  10. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    The front of the carrier is different. How many different ways can you describe a BCG.
     
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  11. oli700

    oli700 Rogue Valley Well-Known Member

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    yeah, the Rainier is three face facet and the guru carrier is two face facet
     
  12. unclemoak

    unclemoak United States New Member

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    Well since IronMonster invited me to the party. I'll comment on a few things that stand out.


    That image is from quite a while ago. Coming from an Industrial Engineering background, we're always working on improving our machining methods.


    There's plenty of contact info available. I do a majority of my business through wholesale, so there's an email address available on the site or the contact form can be used. On most days, I can typically reply to all email inquires within an hour or two.

    I'm curious what mechanical advantage a bolt would have by having a finer finish on this area of the bolt?


    It's not that hard to make some changes to machine two facets vs three. Just saying ;)


    Some images that I snapped a few minutes ago from newer bolts in the shop.

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  13. B5Ben

    B5Ben Boise Well-Known Member

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    Looks like nice work to me.
     
  14. oli700

    oli700 Rogue Valley Well-Known Member

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    looks good, I used to work in the industry myself....nice of you to show up and shed some light on some stuff

    so are we in the presence of the AR15 BCG Guru ?
     
  15. unclemoak

    unclemoak United States New Member

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    Now I wouldn't go that far. I'm just a normal guy like everyone else.
     
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  16. billcoe

    billcoe PDX Platinum Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    Looks good to me, I'd like a quality spare BCG, so order in. Thanks iron monster and D.Wilson.

    Regards

    Bill
     
  17. oli700

    oli700 Rogue Valley Well-Known Member

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    Well that's good to know, I get intimidated by super hero's

    I know you didn't come to get picked at so I'm not picking but I am curious about your opinion on something

    I know the main drivers for using 9310. I am not opposed to 9310, done right . I have been burned bad by 9310 done wrong

    Can you "generally" describe the hardening process the 9310 is going through?
    I know it has a narrower temperature window than c158 and as I understand it matters when its done when using QPQ for a finish

    thanks for your time, and hey you already have a better Like per Post ratio than you friend who came and told on us for smack talking your BCG, which you have to admit none of us were wrong.......no worries
     
  18. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    Told on you? I figured the guy had a right to respond to your accusations and defend himself. And as far as "BCG Guru" its simply what it says on his AR15.com profile.

    http://www.ar15.com/member/member.html?id=74635

    Im not making stuff up as I go along here....
     
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  19. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    Where ? I searched didn't see any contact info, other then the form which is worthless( not just yours , any websites).
    Could not find email, phone number, address. Any website that didn't have this info is suspect.
     
  20. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    OK , I did find in the upper right hand this tiny little envelope, which doesn't work if you don't a have a email client install on your computer.( who does that anymore, this isn't the 90's). Why not just list it?