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Cop Tasers Person For Getting Their License Out Too Slowly

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by treemanx, Apr 7, 2010.

  1. treemanx

    treemanx Spray, Or. Active Member

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSfPxHgWtug

    Yikes! Supposedly this officer got three days suspension for this, and his excuse was that he was trying to hurry to another call, and his blood sugar was low. I cant verify that, but thats what I heard. Anyways, what do you guys think about this? The driver had no plate on the rear of the car, and might have been fumbling for his license (although the officer didnt really give him much time to get it out). The part I couldn't find some excuse for was when he asked the guy to get out of the car, then when the guy did, the cop yells at him to get back in! Then hits him with the door and tells him to get to the rear of the car! Everything after that is history, watch and see what you think.:confused: -tree
     
  2. Decker

    Decker My house Active Member

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    Wow, seriously wtf? I understand having a bad day and all but that's totally unacceptable and 3 day suspension isn't quite enough IMHO.

    -d
     
  3. Benny503

    Benny503 Grants Pass Well-Known Member

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    Bad cop = no donoughsss
     
  4. theflyguy

    theflyguy Beaverton, Oregon Member

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    That officer acted inappropriately! To place the guy under arrest, other than the infraction, the guy didn't commit any other crime.

    3 day suspension....cops like this one give all LOE's a bad image!!!!

    But then again, cops are just people....I know they have a tought job but is ONLY a job. How many cops have done drugs, killed spouses, beat up family members, I could go on an on... Just like the medical field they feel they are above the avg. everyday individual living there lives.

    This cops should be removed from the dept. IMHO
     
  5. Iansstud

    Iansstud SW WA / PDX Member

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    I wonder why people hate the police???


    I enjoyed reading the comments:

     
  6. Artilleryman

    Artilleryman Originally from the central midwest but have reloc Active Member

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    The best way for law enforcement personnel to improve their image & regain public trust is for them to actively oppose this type of behavior & police their own ranks. Military personnel will hammer a slacker who steps out've line. Law enforcement should develop a similar approach.
     
  7. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Most Leo's dont care. We are the sheep to them. We WILL obey!!!! Or ELSE!!!!!
     
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  8. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  9. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.htm

    ORS prohibits resisting unlawful arrest.

    162.315 Resisting arrest. (1) A person commits the crime of resisting arrest if the person intentionally resists a person known by the person to be a peace officer or parole and probation officer in making an arrest.
    (2) As used in this section:
    (a) “Arrest” has the meaning given that term in ORS 133.005 and includes, but is not limited to, the booking process.
    (b) “Parole and probation officer” has the meaning given that term in ORS 181.610.
    (c) “Resists” means the use or threatened use of violence, physical force or any other means that creates a substantial risk of physical injury to any person and includes, but is not limited to, behavior clearly intended to prevent being taken into custody by overcoming the actions of the arresting officer. The behavior does not have to result in actual physical injury to an officer. Passive resistance does not constitute behavior intended to prevent being taken into custody.
    (3) It is no defense to a prosecution under this section that the peace officer or parole and probation officer lacked legal authority to make the arrest or book the person, provided the officer was acting under color of official authority.
    (4) Resisting arrest is a Class A misdemeano

    according to case-law, this statute is unconstitutional.
     
  10. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Maybe some, but that is the exception, not the rule.

    Yeah, right. Actually, most LEO's DO CARE, that's why they do the job.


    Stop with the bullbubblegum comments that MOST officers don't care. That is a gross misrepresentation of them. Most DO NOT like this type of behavior. Are guys who abuse their power wrong? Absolutely. But to group most LEO's into this category which some of you have done is not appropriate. If some of you are in such a hurry to see change, I suggest you check the job listings and put on a badge.
     
  11. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    What case law?

    This statute - like most - has been defined and circumscribed by case law, but it doesn't look like it's ever been ruled unconstitutional (at least according to my perfunctory research).
     
  12. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    the cases are listed in the link. no, if the oregon statute had ever been declared unconsitutional, it's unlikely it would still be on the books. i'm saying that based on case law, the oregon statute appears wrong.
     
  13. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    As has already been stated, most cops are not doing this.. tells you volumes about what matters to them, and it's not your liberty or safety!
     
  14. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    = most Leo's dont care?
     
  15. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    The bull---- is the way ALOT!!!! of them treat the average citizen! And instead of just laying around and defending their UNLAWFUL actions I say its wrong! With your way of thinking do I also need to become a doctor , a lawyer, a judge, work a mc donalds if i see them doing something wrong?

    What needs to be done is the Good Leo's need to really stand up and stop letting the bad ones keep doing bad things!!!!!!!! And I say MOST of them dont really care or it wouldnt be like it is!
     
  16. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. But obviously you've never been around them or you wouldn't feel like this. I have. I've been there and for a while I did that (and probably will again). Cops care about people or they wouldn't be doing the job. Unlike the movies, where some of you seem to get you opinions, most officers do not join to be bullies. They join because they want to do a job that matters. They care about keeping people safe.
     
  17. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Ok. I believe that alot of them are Good guys! But you tell me that I am mistaken about all of the times I see and read of the numerous amounts of them breaking the laws. Form the top Chiefs all the way to the new recruits. First year to 24 year veterans. Nothing needs to be fixed? Most of the Leos care?
     
  18. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Watching that video on the first post..what do you think? Did the guy deserve it? Was the Cop treating him with respect? Would most cops " got his back" over the citizen because it is their fellow Leo?
     
  19. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    And we do not need "Movies" to see how they are acting these days. How can anyone trust them? Just read the newspapers, watch the news, read about the court cases, even go on their own web sites. Yeah they are not trusted. Take a poll...
     
  20. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    Except for John Bad Elk, the cases listed at that link are from other states, and have no effect whatsoever on Oregon law.

    Oregon courts have ruled that civilians do have the right to defend themselves despite the statute's seeming prohibition.

    Here's Westlaw's summary of the holdings in the most importan case in this regard, State v. Wright, 310 Or. 430 - due to its age, the entire opinion is not online. If anybody wants me to post the whole thing, I can (it's quite a bit of work to reformat these things), but the stuff below should be all you need:




    It's all just a convoluted way of saying "you get to defend yourself against a rogue officer, but the statute stays the way it is." The decision came down this way because the Constitution required it. A little strange, but that's how case law works.