Considerations for an anti-cant level

[ATCclears]

A friend recommended I should consider an anti-cant device (ACD) for my rifle. Any recommendations or input from those who have one? Things I should consider that may not be obvious?

I found two possibilities on Amazon:

Amazon.com: Vortex Optics Bubble Level for 30mm Riflescope Tubes: Sports & Outdoors

Amazon.com: ACD - Anti-CANT Device, 30mm. BLACK: Sports & Outdoors

Thx,
Peter

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[geometro]

For just trying it out, a B-square one is fine and can be found for cheap...but shipping almost doubles the price.

Otherwise, it's Accuracy 1st.

Accuracy 1st: Scope Levels: Civilian

 

[Straight Shooter]

I really like the one Darrell Holland sells. It's by far the brightest easiest to see unit available.

 

[jluck]

I have had both the bubble level pic rail and the force recon rings. I really like the rings.

The best in long range shooting gear

A northwest company to-boot

 

[Mark W.]

I have a Barrel level in the rear dovetail on a 26" barrel model 94 with a Williams FP-94/36 TK peep sight and a MVA combination front sight. The bubble really helps for long distance.

 

[Tim K]

If your scope mount has a Picatinny rail, then I'm a big fan of USO's rail mounted levels.

 

[Guilty]

Probably 2 of the best anti-cant scope levels available:

Flatline OPS

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[dracozny]

are we just talking about setting up the scope?: if your scope has a flat bottom you should be able to just place a machinist rule under the main body of the scope and on top of your picatany rail.

if were just talking about general use the levels are not as useful. maintaining eye position to the parallax is more of an issue, in which I would suggest an Accucover, strange looking but a nice training aid.

 

[Tim K]

if were just talking about general use the levels are not as useful. maintaining eye position to the parallax is more of an issue, in which I would suggest an Accucover, strange looking but a nice training aid.

No, having the rifle level is critical to making precise hits at long ranges. If you are canted 5 degrees (very easy to do), multiply the sine of 5* by the bullet drop in inches to get how far you will be off.

For example, on a .308 shooting Fed GMM at 600 yards, the bullet drops 102". That times sin5* is almost 9".

 

[AMProducts]

Wtf? I havn't seen these things since someone did an article about them back in the early 90s and they were all the rage with smallbore shooters.

As it turns out I shoot with a cant, what I did was simply learn to hold the rifle the same way every time, reminds me, I just found an old certificate from a smallbore match I shot back in the 1990's, 1567X93 Dewar Prone. (that's out of 1600X160). This was shot at 50 yards, with a 22 with peep sights.

Also, You are completely over thinking this, go out to the range, point your gun at the target, pull the trigger, adjust the sights, repeat until you are hitting the target. Once you are hitting the target, write down that turret setting and the conditions in your log book. Provided you can hold the rifle consistently the next time you encounter those conditions at that distance you should be able to put that dope on the gun, and hit the target. If not, no amount of leveling will help.

 

[Straight Shooter]

What you say makes perfect sense if you are target shooting at the same distance all the time. To shoot varied long distances with a canted rifle would require windage adjustments along with elevation adjustments for each and every distance where if the rifle is constantly level the only adjustment is the elevation change. It's not a gimmick.

 

[Simonpie]

I come from a slightly different world (black powder cartridge), but I can't imagine a level being mounted anywhere but right in the line of sight. Usually we have them built into the front aperture holder. Google Lee Shaver's stuff for an example. Otherwise, built into a scope from the factory. Major head motion, or even eye gymnastics, isn't going to help you. Any concentration thief is trouble.
And I agree with the smallbore shooter that cant isn't bad. It is just non-repeatable cant that is bad, and bubble levels are great for this.

 

[TwinStick]

I really like the one Darrell Holland sells. It's by far the brightest easiest to see unit available.

You mean Darrell Holland John Oats?

 

[Straight Shooter]

You mean Darrell Holland John Oats?

This one by Darrel Holland



Which one goes Darrell Holland John Oats make? I'm not familiar with that name.

 

[TwinStick]

This one by Darrel Holland

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Which one goes Darrell Holland John Oats make? I'm not familiar with that name.

Haha. Daryl Hall and John Oats. Hall & Oats? The pop-rock duo from the 80's? When I read Darrell Holland, all I could think was "Holland Oats". Anyway, just a lame pun.