CCW and Weed Card?

[billdeserthills]

I don't believe a competent doctor would prescribe any medication in a dosage so great it would cause them to be mentally affected.

Several years ago I was placed on a couple of blood pressure reducing meds, both were labeled 'this drug may impair driving ability' but after a week off of work I decided I was ok to drive--one or both of my meds caused me to forget a very basic thing and cause an expensive accident--I guess your guess was wrong

Funny to me that You would place so much trust in a Dr or anyone's knowledge of just how a medicine might work on a wide range of users, because nobody actually knows for sure just how or even why many medicines do what they do & certainly not the Doctor

 

[GUNARCHER]

Several years ago I was placed on a couple of blood pressure reducing meds, both were labeled 'this drug may impair driving ability' but after a week off of work I decided I was ok to drive--one or both of my meds caused me to forget a very basic thing and cause an expensive accident--I guess your guess was wrong

Funny to me that You would place so much trust in a Dr or anyone's knowledge of just how a medicine might work on a wide range of users, because nobody actually knows for sure just how or even why many medicines do what they do & certainly not the Doctor

Even if the DR. prescribes a "safe" level of a drug, there is no way to stop someone from doubling the dosage for the effect. So much for the Dr safeguard

 

[sobe911]

Even if the DR. prescribes a "safe" level of a drug, there is no way to stop someone from doubling the dosage for the effect. So much for the Dr safeguard

That's called "abuse", and is unlawful afaik. If someone isn't taking their medication as per their doctors order, that's abuse. If they're taking what the doctor said to take, they're using the medication as opposed to abusing.

Since it's abuse, you'd fail this question on the 4473... So that's a moot point, isn't it?

 

[gozoner]

As best I can tell, a person using alcohol, cannabis or sinus medicine has a need to defend themselves. I'm surely not the person to limit their choice on how best to protect themselves.

Last I checked shooting another person, except in self-defense, is wrong. If, and I stress *if*, using alcohol, etc increases the odds that somebody might shoot somebody, it is of no consequence to me - because I need to be vigilant against being shot, no matter the odds or reason.

 

[Argonaut]

Trump called for drug dealers to be convicted of a capital crime the same as murders.....life in prison or the death penalty.........and you guys thought I was the only one that thought that way.

 

[kott0n]

Trump called for drug dealers to be convicted of a capital crime the same as murders.....life in prison or the death penalty.........and you guys thought I was the only one that thought that way.

Marijuana isn't in the same league as crack, heroin, pcp, meth, cocaine and synthetics. This is why medical marijuana has been around 30 years and decriminalized 20 and legal for 5, in some states. This is why it has documented use, without processing, for thousands of years.

 

[Gator Monroe]

Lie on 4473 no soup for you

 

[kott0n]

Lie on 4473 no soup for you

I've never filled one out but I don't each very much soup as it is.

 

[Gator Monroe]

I've never filled one out but I don't each very much soup as it is.

An end to private FtoF sales and non FFL transfers , and added HIPPA Waiver signature ( With deep research reguardless of time) to all 4473 forms (bad yes but all waived ( Along with Wait time) if you have Current valid CHL/CWP/CCW even in RTC states ( And all CHL/CWP/CCW will be limited to 3 Years til renewal) it's all on the horizon ...

 

[wired]

Marijuana isn't in the same league as crack, heroin, pcp, meth, cocaine and synthetics. This is why medical marijuana has been around 30 years and decriminalized 20 and legal for 5, in some states. This is why it has documented use, without processing, for thousands of years.

People who are against legalized marijuana make no distinction between crack cocaine, heroine and marijuana etc. They're all the same...right? They do the same thing and make people behave exactly the same.

 

[Gator Monroe]

People who are against legalized marijuana make no distinction between crack cocaine, heroine and marijuana etc. They're all the same...right? They do the same thing and make people behave exactly the same.

California makes no distinction between Illegals And American citizen Californians

 

[4Freedom]

Trump praised the governments of Singapore and the leader of China, Xi Jinping, who just installed himself as China's new lifelong Emperor... Is that the type of America you want to live in? If so, well, ok, enjoy that..

In Singapore, if you are caught with a firearm, you will also be executed. And, the Singapore government is very efficient and getting a conviction and death row is usually a matter of months, not years. Do you also agree with the Singapore government for executing people who possess firearms so they can defend themselves? There is no right to keep and bear arms in that country. I think Trump respects all aspects of the Singapore government and even praised how efficient they are at controlling their population and keeping everything in order. Considering Trump said he is sick and tired of Due Process and just wants to take the guns away from people he thinks are threats, I think we may be very well on the way to having a new type of America, one where the leaders have utmost authority and the peasants are punished for going against the demands of the supreme leader.

Good luck with the drug war.. This thread has tired me out .. I think the Trump worshipers will worship him right until he sends the gestapo to their home.

Great idea.. The way to end crime is just going around and killing anyone the government thinks is bad.. That will fix it all.. Nevermind, about executing rapists, murderers, corrupt politicians, etc .. Still waiting on Hillary there, Mr. Trump, but I have my doubts you would turn in an old friend. No, let us just execute drug dealers.. To quote Donald Trump, "Take the guns first, go through due process second".

 

[Gator Monroe]

Trump praised the governments of Singapore and the leader of China, Xi Jinping, who just installed himself as China's new lifelong Emperor... Is that the type of America you want to live in? If so, well, ok, enjoy that..

In Singapore, if you are caught with a firearm, you will also be executed. And, the Singapore government is very efficient and getting a conviction and death row is usually a matter of months, not years. Do you also agree with the Singapore government for executing people who possess firearms so they can defend themselves? There is no right to keep and bear arms in that country. I think Trump respects all aspects of the Singapore government and even praised how efficient they are at controlling their population and keeping everything in order. Considering Trump said he is sick and tired of Due Process and just wants to take the guns away from people he thinks are threats, I think we may be very well on the way to having a new type of America, one where the leaders have utmost authority and the peasants are punished for going against the demands of the supreme leader.

Good luck with the drug war.. This thread has tired me out .. I think the Trump worshipers will worship him right until he sends the gestapo to their home.

Great idea.. The way to end crime is just going around and killing anyone the government thinks is bad.. That will fix it all.. Nevermind, about executing rapists, murderers, corrupt politicians, etc .. Still waiting on Hillary there, Mr. Trump, but I have my doubts you would turn in an old friend. No, let us just execute drug dealers.. To quote Donald Trump, "Take the guns first, go through due process second".

I take my first cigarette in almost 20 years and puff it with a smile without blindfold as they put me against the wall and I'll have a smile on my face knowing Obama is long gone and Hillary lost then bang .

 

[kott0n]

People still don't get it, neither the Republican or Democratic party represents the people.

They are both in favor of foreign wars, more taxes, more government intervention, just different methods of getting there.

 

[Gator Monroe]

People still don't get it, neither the Republican or Democratic party represents the people.

They are both in favor of foreign wars, more taxes, more government intervention, just different methods of getting there.

But one is in favor of complete Disarmament of the Public , Legalized Drugs , third Trimester Abortion on Demand , Socialism (With Maoist highlights) , Never allowing DOMA back into the SCOTUS purview , forced Diversity & Social Justice manipulation , open borders , curb stomping Religion (Except Islam) ...

 

[turbo_vanner]

Dont you guys hate it when a small percentage of irresponsible people endanger the public in some form or fashion that results in a bunch of laws that only effect the law abiding? .... I sure do.

 

[Gator Monroe]

Dont you guys hate it when a small percentage of irresponsible people endanger the public in some form or fashion that results in a bunch of laws that only effect the law abiding? .... I sure do.

Yes that is why we need to Taylor the new laws towards criminals & nut jobs like the Cruz kid and the nut job that killed the Shrinks at the California Vets home and the kook who shot Chris Kyle ...

 

[4Freedom]

I take my first cigarette in almost 20 years and puff it with a smile without blindfold as they put me against the wall and I'll have a smile on my face knowing Obama is long gone and Hillary lost then bang .

So, you are saying if Trump disarms you, violates your constitutional rights and does all the things Hillary Clinton openly said she would do during the election, it is ok? It is ok for Trump to trample all over our freedoms and dissolve our Bill of Rights because he is Donald Trump?

Sorry, I am really lost with your logic. I think you have good intentions and I do support a lot of the things you want, but I also think you are a bit deluded in thinking that Trump will be the savior of America and fulfill all these noble promises. It is these bold promises that got him into the White House, but talk is cheap and Trump has shown he is a big talker.

However, on the subject of the Drug War, I believe it is causing many more deaths than it is saving people. If you think making drugs even more illegal will stop the drug war, please think again. Most drug dealers end up being killed by other drug dealers. So, if the government doesn't arrest them and execute them, some other rival drug dealer will do the deed for us. In Mexico, South America and several other nations they do engage in gun battles and kill plenty of drug dealers and even drug lords. So, what happens? After they kill one , there are ten more to take their place.

You would have thought killing Pablo Escobar would have ended the cocaine epidemic, but guess what? After the Colombian police with the help of the DEA took out Escobar, there was even more powerful drug lords to take their place who ended up making even more money and having more political influence than Escobar did. And, what happened to the Cali cartels? Once their network became compromised and eventually was destroyed and the leaders of that cartel were arrested or killed, then the Mexican drug cartels took the helm. And, what did we have after all that bloodshed and carnage from the Colombian drug wars? We got El Chapo and now the entire Mexican government is actually running the drug trade. If you think that killing petty drug dealers will stop the War on Drugs, you are grossly mistaken. Many of these drug dealers end up dying anyway and threat of being executed by the government is probably the least of their worries. This is a much bigger issue than just dealing with drug dealers in our country. Rather, there are some very influential people, some who are worth over billion dollars, like El Chapo, who have politicians on the payroll.

The only way to end the War on Drugs is to legalize and regulate them. First, we are spending billions of our tax money to fight this drug war and it is not effective. We have more drug addicts than ever and the drug mafias are becoming so powerful that they are starting to be able to secure positions even in our own government and control or have deep influence of the governments of many other countries, such as Mexico and several Central American countries. Venezuela, for example, has been helped a lot by drug cartel money.

My feelings are that the Drug War is very profitable to the government and despite being an utter failure, it helps increase the size and power of the government machine. Now we will need to increase the size of the DEA, ATF, FBI and several other federal agencies by requiring more tax dollars flowing to them. The amount of funding these departments receive is crucial for their survival, especially the DEA.

As well, if he wants to start executing drug dealers, who is to say this won't be a means for him to start executing all types of other people for who knows what else. Where does he draw the lines on executions? Will he execute the veteran who is selling a little weed on the side to help with his PTSD? Maybe, he will say we should start executing people who do this and who do that. How about DUIs? Should people who drive drunk be executed, since they also kill people? When leaders start executing people for minor offenses you end up with a tyrannical regime.

Just think about it, if we stopped this Drug War, we can take that tax revenue and actually build a wall around Mexico and deport all the illegals who have are thriving off of the illegal drug trade, which couldn't exist without it being as illegal as it is. There is no way Trump will be able to build this giant wall and at the same time fight this war on drugs. If we stopped being such a totalitarian bureaucracy which it seems now that both Democrats and Republicans are striving for, we would have a much more successful country, people would have more freedoms, have more opportunities and we would have less drug addiction. There would be less murders as a majority of the gangs in our country would dissolve because they no longer have any revenue to fund them. All the gang warfare in our country would cease in a matter of months and our crime rate would drop signficantly.

It is the Drug War, not Drug Addiction that has contributed to majority of the suffering, bloodshed and poverty in our country. Drug addicts will always seek out their drugs, you can buy them on any street corner. Drug lords and dealers will keep selling their product. Outside of Nazi Germany like rule, there is not much we can do in a free society. I don't want to live in a fascist society. I'd rather live in a free society with drug addicts than in a Nazi Germany society were everyone is clean for fear of death.

 

[turbo_vanner]

weed turns people into deadbeats about as much as ar15's turn people into mass murderers.....

either they are or they are not, the tools at hand can only expedite the results.

 

[Squidly]

weed turns people into deadbeats about as much as ar15's turn people into mass murderers.....

either they are or they are not, the tools at hand can only expedite the results.

I have worked with several engineers who smoke weed daily. You would never know it just by looking at them on the street or by evaluating their work performance. Responsible potheads? who'd have thunk?