Oregon Can a gunsmith mail my gun back to me?

[trukinbear]

Here's my question guys and I haven't got a response from agency or I would just go with that. I'm thinking of sending my pistol off to agency to have trigger work done on it and the thing says they'll send it back but here's my question. Can they actually mail it back to me or do they have to send it to a FFL?

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[TTSX]

Since you already own it and you sent it directly to them, they can send it directly back to you. Or at least, that's been my experience.

 

[thorborg]

It must go through an FFL; Send and received. At least in, and thanks to, Oregon.

 

[Pepe-lepew]

Oregon law allows gunsmiths to transfer back to the owner without a BGC. See ORS 166.435 (1) (a) (D).

 

[roseburger]

^Peepee has it.

 

[CountryGent]

This section of SB 941 seems relevant (emphasis added):

SECTION 2. (1) As used in this section:
(a) "Transfer" means the delivery of a firearm from a transferor to a transferee, including,
but not limited to, the sale, gift, loan or lease of the firearm. "Transfer" does not
include the temporary provision of a firearm to a transferee if the transferor has no reason
to believe the transferee is prohibited from possessing a firearm or intends to use the
firearm in the commission of a crime, and the provision occurs:
(A) At a shooting range, shooting gallery or other area designed for the purpose of target
shooting, for use during target practice, a firearms safety or training course or class or a
similar lawful activity;
(B) For the purpose of hunting, trapping or target shooting, during the time in which the
transferee is engaged in activities related to hunting, trapping or target shooting;

(C) Under circumstances in which the transferee and the firearm are in the presence of
the transferor;
(D) To a transferee who is in the business of repairing firearms, for the time during
which the firearm is being repaired;
(E) To a transferee who is in the business of making or repairing custom accessories for
firearms, for the time during which the accessories are being made or repaired; or
(F) For the purpose of preventing imminent death or serious physical injury, and the
provision lasts only as long as is necessary to prevent the death or serious physical injury.
(b) "Transferee" means a person who is not a gun dealer or licensed as a manufacturer
or importer under 18 U.S.C. 923 and who intends to receive a firearm from a transferor.
(c) "Transferor" means a person who is not a gun dealer or licensed as a manufacturer
or importer under 18 U.S.C. 923 and who intends to deliver a firearm to a transferee.
(2) Except as provided in ORS 166.436 and 166.438 and subsection (4) of this section, a
transferor may not transfer a firearm to a transferee unless the transfer is completed
through a gun dealer as described in subsection (3) of this section.
(3)(a) A transferor may transfer a firearm to a transferee only

 

[gunsmithkinks]

Yes they can send it back to the owner.

Same way it works in most states when sending in a gun for a factory repair job or other work . The gun factory can mail you a factory shipping label also to get a gun shipped on their dime to the factory. After work is done in your gun, they can then ship the gun back directly to you, and not through your local FFL, after your gun is repaired or what ever work you have done on it. But shipping the gun to a gunsmith will probably cost you, going both directions shipping it.

I've shipped a lot over the years for these very reasons.

 

[roseburger]

This section of SB 941 seems relevant (emphasis added):

You're awfully bold tonight.

 

[CountryGent]

I just realized OP didn't mention if he meant state level or Feds. This one from BATFE may be helpful:

Does a licensed gunsmith have to conduct a NICS background check before returning repaired or customized firearms?

No, if the firearm is being returned to the person from whom it was received. However, if the firearm is delivered to someone other than the person from whom it was received, a NICS background check is required.
[18 U.S.C. 922(t); 478.124(a)]

 

[roseburger]

I just realized OP didn't mention if he meant state level or Feds. This one from BATFE may be helpful:

View: https://youtu.be/9FbNyee5fn0?si=05wKkD6__gjpiAxk

 

[thorborg]

Requirements for transfer via shipping through FFL and background checks are two separate things. While I'm not experienced with multiple incidents of such, I did have a BFR 45-70 revolver shipped to the manufacture Magnum Research for a scope mount to be installed. Then a couple years later to Magnaport on the east coast for a port attachment and both times I had to have it sent and received through an FFL, (my 03 FFL not good enough) None of this required Back ground checks.
Whether or not instate deliveries are different, or if it is the actual Oregon Law, made no difference, as the work performed by both Magnaport and Magnum Research, per their shipping requirements, would not have happened remotely without an FFL otherwise.
Law or no law, contact the parties concerned for their requirements for dealing with them. If they will ship back and fourth direct then Great. If not, there isn't much you can do about it other than looking for a different vender that will..

 

[bcp]

A handgun has to go through a FFL if it is shipped by USPS. (Federal regulation)

I hear FEDEX and UPS will no longer ship from a person, only FFL or shipping account holder. (company policy)

Bruce

 

[roseburger]

I shipped two receivers to GA Precision two years ago. I got delivered to my door, two compete rifles.

 

[PiratePast40]

If it's your gun, it's not a transfer.

Yes, USPS has it's own rules but you don't need to use them. Other shippers have their own rules that are circumvented by getting an account and printing your own labels.

 

[teflon6string]

If memory serves, I recall sending one to the factory for repair via Fed-Ex or UPS (I forget which). Had to drive to their Swan Island shipping hub and sign for it when it came back (I suppose so it wasn't left on my doorstep). No FFL involved.

This was probably 15 years ago and rules may have changed since then. Or maybe not.

Make some calls to the repair facility and shippers to find out what's the deal today.

 

[titsonritz]

Yes

 

[Will_White]

Yep, you just can't send some (all?) firearms through USPS.

 

[User 1234]

Ship, yes, mail, no.

Re the post in this thread, yes ShipMyGun allows unlicensed persons to send a handgun to an FFL.

 

[Lazyfaire]

Here's my question guys and I haven't got a response from agency or I would just go with that. I'm thinking of sending my pistol off to agency to have trigger work done on it and the thing says they'll send it back but here's my question. Can they actually mail it back to me or do they have to send it to a FFL?

Yes they can. They are an FFL and since you sent it in for service work they can send it back to you via (usually) FEDEX 2 DAY AIR. Signature required . So someone must be home to sign for it. Your option is that they send it to your FFL, but you'll probably get charged to transfer it to you.

 

[Lazyfaire]

I sent a pistol to Langdon Tactical in AZ a month ago and they did send it back directly to me via FEDUP

But understand this policy is a one-off. You can't just send a pistol through the mail. You can only do it if they send you a printed address label to send it through their carrier. Your only other choice is to take it to an FFL and have them send it to the repair shop. Follow the rules or your pistol may end up in limbo