Betsy Johnson, Machine Gun Owner

[SonicBlue03]

"Cold War-era sub machine gun"

Who else wants to know what she has? I do!

 

[trevi]

Every election comes down to a choice. Normally 2. Almost NEVER is one choice perfect. This is where gun owners so often shoot themselves in the foot. Since both choices are not great they refuse to vote. So the worst possible one wins. Kate is not running but pretend she is. Would you in OR prefer Kate or Betsy? Do you really believe both of them are the same? The only solution is to elect the "better one" each election. Then move on. Next election you do it again. In time you can get better. What too many do? Tell anyone who will listen to them to not bother to vote so the worst win. Never have quite understood how they think this is the way to get better.

We should get Sarah Palin back in the running, unless she changed, too.

 

[CountryGent]

"Cold War-era sub machine gun"

Who else wants to know what she has? I do!

Indeed I do.

 

[CLT65]

The way I see it, we have a choice between a candidate with proven 2A support, who now says she's open to age limits and background checks; and an extreme radical leftist who would love to ban absolutely everything, and forcibly "re-educate" anyone not woke enough.

As much as I don't like more limits and BGCs in principle, I see them as relatively minor in comparison to more draconian measures. If Johnson has to waffle a little in an attempt to appear "reasonable" to the average independent voter, I don't hold it against her.

Along the same lines, there are other issues that I personally don't agree with her on, but she is so far and away better than the alternative, she's still got my vote.

 

[ZigZagZeke]

Looks like Betsy will cave like the rest.

Betsy Johnson says she'll back checks, raising age on gun purchases if elected governor go

Former state Sen. Betsy Johnson, who is running for Oregon governor, said Tuesday that she will support stronger background checks on gun purchases as well as raising the age that people can buy certain guns from 18 to 21 years old. As a legislator, she voted against gun control bills. Her shift...

katu.com

We already have comprehensive background checks on all transactions. How does it get worse than it is now. I'll vote for her over Kotek or Drazan and then argue with her about background checks.

And frankly, I'd love to see everything associated with adulthood raised to 21 years old, including voting, the draft, contracts, etc. At the ripe old age of 75 I have some perspective now, and my take is that a good portion of 18 year olds these days have no business being outside unsupervised.

 

[ZigZagZeke]

The way I see it, we have a choice between a candidate with proven 2A support, who now says she's open to age limits and background checks; and an extreme radical leftist who would love to ban absolutely everything, and forcibly "re-educate" anyone not woke enough.

As much as I don't like more limits and BGCs in principle, I see them as relatively minor in comparison to more draconian measures. If Johnson has to waffle a little in an attempt to appear "reasonable" to the average independent voter, I don't hold it against her.

Along the same lines, there are other issues that I personally don't agree with her on, but she is so far and away better than the alternative, she's still got my vote.

You've been inside my head looking around. We think alike.

 

[SonicBlue03]

We already have comprehensive background checks on all transactions. How does it get worse than it is now. I'll vote for her over Kotek or Drazan and then argue with her about background checks.

And frankly, I'd love to see everything associated with adulthood raised to 21 years old, including voting, the draft, contracts, etc. At the ripe old age of 75 I have some perspective now, and my take is that a good portion of 18 year olds these days have no business being outside unsupervised.

Nadler ('ol puddin' brain') argued today in committee that "18 year old brains aren't fully formed." Agreed. Move voting, drinking, smoking, gun purchases, and selective service to 21. All of it. And let's hear the Dems argue how some of those are okay for 'non fully formed brains.'

(Btw, Nadler already argued that under developed people should still go to war if the nation needs them. He did so in open forum today. Massie made him look the clown that he is.)

 

[Mikej]

The way I see it, we have a choice between a candidate with proven 2A support, who now says she's open to age limits and background checks; and an extreme radical leftist who would love to ban absolutely everything, and forcibly "re-educate" anyone not woke enough.

As much as I don't like more limits and BGCs in principle, I see them as relatively minor in comparison to more draconian measures. If Johnson has to waffle a little in an attempt to appear "reasonable" to the average independent voter, I don't hold it against her.

Along the same lines, there are other issues that I personally don't agree with her on, but she is so far and away better than the alternative, she's still got my vote.

We already have comprehensive background checks on all transactions. How does it get worse than it is now. I'll vote for her over Kotek or Drazan and then argue with her about background checks.

And frankly, I'd love to see everything associated with adulthood raised to 21 years old, including voting, the draft, contracts, etc. At the ripe old age of 75 I have some perspective now, and my take is that a good portion of 18 year olds these days have no business being outside unsupervised.

Here's to hoping the majority of non affiliated, registered Republicans, AND a good portion of registered democrats feel the same this year. The brown/kotek crew want to crush the Oregon that I came to love after I moved here June 7th 1983. They've already got a damned good start on it and it needs to be stopped!

 

[Diamondback]

At the ripe old age of 75 I have some perspective now, and my take is that a good portion of 18 year olds these days have no business being outside unsupervised.

Just as true of a disturbing number of my fellow 40somethings, thanks to a culture of Peter Pan Syndrome. "I don't wanna grow up and YOU CAN'T MAKE ME!"

 

[CLT65]

I have to admit, it sure seems that the average 18 year old is less mature than a generation or two ago. I know there are still many who are solid, mature adults by the time they're 18, but I've seen a surprising number who seem to be stunted at around 13.

I've been hearing for some time now that they want to lower the voting age to 16. What hypocrites.

 

[Mikej]

I have to admit, it sure seems that the average 18 year old is less mature than a generation or two ago. I know there are still many who are solid, mature adults by the time they're 18, but I've seen a surprising number who seem to be stunted at around 13.

I've been hearing for some time now that they want to lower the voting age to 16. What hypocrites.

I feel like it's the city kids. Products of city parents, and maybe most of all, city SCHOOLS? Look at all the businesses in the cities that can't find people to work. And the ones they do get to sign-up are terribly lacking in work ethic. Even the 20/30/40 something's don't have a work ethic.
Wifey has first hand experience with no work ethic people.

 

[joken]

I hired young men to help me on a remodel. I paid $20/hr daily and out of four of them only two made it two days and I never heard from them again. No notice, nothing.

 

[Mikej]

I hired young men to help me on a remodel. I paid $20/hr daily and out of four of them only two made it two days and I never heard from them again. No notice, nothing.

What's the deal with those 18-20 somethings parents? Okay, "Boomer" time! Getting a job at 16-17 was the most exciting thing in the world at that point! The folks bought the gas for the car, but I had to buy the burgers and fries for myself, or a gal friend and my self? And as you got older, 20-21, you needed even MORE money. Do parents really buy everything their kids desire these days?

 

[FALshot]

Here's to hoping the majority of non affiliated, registered Republicans, AND a good portion of registered democrats feel the same this year. The brown/kotek crew want to crush the Oregon that I came to love after I moved here June 7th 1983. They've already got a damned good start on it and it needs to be stopped!

2016 Oregon gubernatorial special election results:

Nominee	Kate Brown	Bud Pierce
Party	Democratic	Republican
Alliance	Working Families
Popular vote	985,027	845,609
Percentage	50.6%	43.5%

Oregon has 36 counties.

Kate Brown won 7 of 36 counties. (Roughly 15-20% of Oregon's land mass.)

Bud Pierce won 29 of Oregon's 36 counties. (Roughly 80-85% of Oregon's land mass)

1,830,636 Oregonians voted and Kate Brown won by 139,418 votes

As we've all seen the Leftists rule as though they have some sort of sweeping mandate. The fact that they are supposed to represent all of Oregon's citizens, including those who did not vote for them, is completely foreign to them.

78.9% voter turnout in the 2016 Oregon Election.

In order to win Oregonians who are sick of one sided Leftist rule will have to turn out and vote. (Especially in the 29 counties that do not vote Democrat.)

 

[41mag]

The conservatives have yet to discover 'land masses' don't vote.

 

[nehalemguy]

"Cold War-era sub machine gun"

Who else wants to know what she has? I do!

I have wanted to ask her when she has been in Vernonia. Just never have. I'll email her later today,

-E-

 

[Bobbygun]

The conservatives have yet to discover 'land masses' don't vote.

Only in the Senate.

(U.S. Senate anyway)

 

[Bobbygun]

We should get Sarah Palin back in the running, unless she changed, too.

I think she is running for Alaska's lone House seat. Hard to imagine she will have much support after resigning as Governor.

 

[CLT65]

The conservatives have yet to discover 'land masses' don't vote.

Liberals learned long ago that people packed tightly into cities are much easier to influence and control.

 

[Alexx1401]

We already have comprehensive background checks on all transactions. How does it get worse than it is now. I'll vote for her over Kotek or Drazan and then argue with her about background checks.

And frankly, I'd love to see everything associated with adulthood raised to 21 years old, including voting, the draft, contracts, etc. At the ripe old age of 75 I have some perspective now, and my take is that a good portion of 18 year olds these days have no business being outside unsupervised.

Notice the law makers championing raising the age to buy to 21 were also a while ago championing lowering voting age. If they want to make buying 21? I would be fine if EVERYTHING "adult" was 21.