Best way to build a SBR AK?

[bmw2]

Should I cut down a full size rifle or buy a pistol and add a stock? I'd like to build one but I wasn't sure if the receiver on the AK pistols will accept a buttstock. So who's done it and how hard was it? Also any info on how to form a trust and the application procedures would be great. Thanks.

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[stitchclimber]

You'll have to grind off the rivets and replace the rear trunion (sp?)

As far as a trust, you can use a trust creator (can be purchased at office depot) or have a lawyer draw one up for you. Have it notarized, send it, a declaration of citizenship form, 2 copy's of your signed form 1, and a check for $200 and then wait for 3 months.

 

[stitchclimber]

When you add a stock a pistol it has to be registered as an SBR, it ceases to be a pistol.

From what I understand if you make it from a pistol it's an AOW (Any Other Weapon)

If you make it from a rifle it's an SBR (Short Barreled Rifle)

I don't know if an AOW is still a pistol. If it is, then I would think it would be illegal to shoot armor piercing through it as opposed to if it were a SBR. Not that anyone would consider that a deal breaker but it's something to think about.

 

[Deavis]

best option: Buy a krink kit - register the lower as an SBR and build it!

 

[bmw2]

Is there a retailer in particular with Krink kits in stock or is it just a matter of looking and waiting?

 

[PhysicsGuy]

From what I understand if you make it from a pistol it's an AOW (Any Other Weapon)

If you make it from a rifle it's an SBR (Short Barreled Rifle)

I don't know if an AOW is still a pistol. If it is, then I would think it would be illegal to shoot armor piercing through it as opposed to if it were a SBR. Not that anyone would consider that a deal breaker but it's something to think about.

I think you're confusing this with shotguns. A regular shotgun (long arm) cut down would have to be a SBS, but if the receiver started out as a "pistol" then the barrel can be short and it can be an AOW (without a stock), the reason for this is because a "smooth bore pistol" is considered an all other weapon. (along with cane guns, pen guns, and other oddities.

 

[NorthernBornRebel]

Is there a retailer in particular with Krink kits in stock or is it just a matter of looking and waiting?

You gotta hunt the kits down. Expect to pay $800-$1000 for a good kit, then you need the receiver.

 

[bmw2]

Well that puts it a little out of my price range, so has anyone modified an AK pistol? Maybe have a couple of pics?

 

[wired]

A pistol can be an AOW if you have a vertical forgrip but it cannot have a buttstock.

 

[Trlsmn]

Believe it or not its not legal to replace the trunnion if it is serial numbered. Even if you are put the exact same numbers on a new trunnion it is still considered defacing the serial numbers and is as such considered illegal by the ATF.


A pistol can be an AOW if you have a vertical forgrip but it cannot have a buttstock.

That is not correct. The only numbers that matter are the receiver numbers. None of the other numbered parts are the receiver so they cannot be registered as a gun.

Also there are no numbers on a rear AK trunnion, the truth is what people call a rear trunnion isn't technically as trunnion either. Correction some trunnions are numbered per stitchclimbers post below.

 

[stitchclimber]

there are no numbers on a rear AK trunnion, the truth is what people call a rear trunnion isn't technically as trunnion either.

The piece that is most often referred to as the rear trunnion at times might be serialized (I have a romy kit with a serialized trunnion), but you are correct in saying that those numbers don't really matter.

 

[stitchclimber]

I also see our newest moderator hasn't lost any time on editing peoples post... don't let the power go to your head.

 

[Trlsmn]

I also see our newest moderator hasn't lost any time on editing peoples post... don't let the power go to your head.

Wasn't me.

 

[stitchclimber]

Wasn't me.

I better shut up then before I get flagged for abusing the staff.

 

[PhysicsGuy]

I also see our newest moderator hasn't lost any time on editing peoples post... don't let the power go to your head.

What got edited?

 

[Trlsmn]

I better shut up then before I get flagged for abusing the staff.

I only use my powers to fight the evil in the world! I think the poster edited his post after I grabbed the original quote.

 

[stitchclimber]

What got edited?

Wired, got edited. The false info got removed from his post.

 

[stitchclimber]

Doesn't it normally say at the bottom if the poster edited his post? ?

Just tried it, guess not

 

[PhysicsGuy]

Wired, got edited. The false info got removed from his post.

Maybe he edited it himself?

 

[Trlsmn]

Maybe he edited it himself?

Yes wired was the one who edited it!