As usual, GOP caves under pressure

[User 1234]

They'll "buy it back" for $5 on the theory that there isn't a market value for contraband and $5 is the scrap metal value.

 

[NeoBlackdog]

That cannot 'buy back' what they've never owned. Phuq 'em!

 

[RicInOR]

McConnell personally expressed openness to raising assault weapons buy age

6/7/2022, 2:57 PM PDT

Mitch McConnell has personally expressed openness to raising the age for assault weapons buys to 21, according to multiple people familiar with the matter.

But he's not pushing GOP senators to include that proposal in gun safety talks.

 

[wired]

I think Mitch has done a good job stonewalling what needs to get stonewalled.

 

[ma96782]

Those sort of politicians be like....



Aloha, Mark

PS.....so then......when is Congress also gonna also stop "registering young people" for a possible draft?
And, for voting?
That is.......until they are at least 21.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Reports now are that GOP leadership has issued sent out a "Just Vote No" memo to all members. This is all Kabuki theater, the D's demand action, the R's say they are willing to talk, the D's come up with outlandish non-starters and the R's say no. That way the D's can blame the R's and say they need more campaign contributions and to be voted back in and the R's can say that they were willing to try but the D's never had any intention of honest negotiation and that is why they also need more campaign contributions and to be voted back in

 

[HA556]

Reports now are that GOP leadership has issued sent out a "Just Vote No" memo to all members. This is all Kabuki theater, the D's demand action, the R's say they are willing to talk, the D's come up with outlandish non-starters and the R's say no. That way the D's can blame the R's and say they need more campaign contributions and to be voted back in and the R's can say that they were willing to try but the D's never had any intention of honest negotiation and that is why they also need more campaign contributions and to be voted back in

And the F's tell 'em all where to go!

 

[BanjoGeek]

I don't know how many of you go back this far but the reason the voting age was lowered to 18 was 18 year old's were OK to go to war but not to vote. (Check out Buffalo Springfield's "For What It's Worth".) Now we have the youngins going to war but they cant buy a rifle cause the politicos want to make some sort of wound bite? WTF over?

 

[Martini_Up]

I don't know how many of you go back this far but the reason the voting age was lowered to 18 was 18 year old's were OK to go to war but not to vote. (Check out Buffalo Springfield's "For What It's Worth".) Now we have the youngins going to war but they cant buy a rifle cause the politicos want to make some sort of wound bite? WTF over?

Agreed. Let's have some consistency in law; you're an adult at 18 with all the rights and privileges which include voting, renting a car, having alcohol, buying NFA or handguns and going to war OR all of that is at 21…. Or 25.

And it doesn't take much to see the family unit being shattered is the cause of so many of our societies problems and woes. Can politicians look at how their actions over the decades has helped or hurt this?

 

[wired]

YEARS of 10 hr a day first person shooter video games combined with SSRI's.

Go ahead , tell me I'm wrong.

 

[Martini_Up]

YEARS of 10 hr a day first person shooter video games combined with SSRI's.

Go ahead , tell me I'm wrong.

I haven't played the latest versions of FPS games - I'm sure It can't help but I don't think it's the core reason. Why do I think that? How about all of those generations of running around the neighborhoods / woods with toy guns playing make believe war? All those real fist fights growing up? All the real shooting of game Animals / hunting?

 

[arakboss]

I haven't played the latest versions of FPS games - I'm sure It can't help but I don't think it's the core reason. Why do I think that? How about all of those generations of running around the neighborhoods / woods with toy guns playing make believe war? All those real fist fights growing up? All the real shooting of game Animals / hunting?

The mood meds could make the difference. Those things can numb a person and make them more capable of emotionless killing. Add that to the constant killing online and that might make a recipe for a psycho.

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[HA556]

The mood meds could make the difference. Those things can numb a person and make them more capable of emotionless killing. Add that to the constant killing online and that might make a recipe for a psycho.

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I want to also bring up that when we played war/cowboys/indians etc. etc., there wasn't all the bloody gore and visual effects. You got shot, fell down for a few minutes and was back up carrying on more missions. In these video games today, they completely desensitize the players from a reality of actual death and dying! I've seen this in some of my own young relatives.

 

[nwslopoke]

I haven't played the latest versions of FPS games - I'm sure It can't help but I don't think it's the core reason. Why do I think that? How about all of those generations of running around the neighborhoods / woods with toy guns playing make believe war? All those real fist fights growing up? All the real shooting of game Animals / hunting?

I don't play shooter video games. I have seen some of the realism in the graphics and desensitization of violence. 99% of the players are less affected. Enough are.

One thing that puzzles me is young school shooters bringing multiple weapons and tons of ammo their non athletic arms can barely carry. I do think they get that part from the games. In a few cases the extra stuff is dumped off somewhere. The computer AI and trained soldiers can deal with it. Bobby no friends just got it the day before and didn't realize 1000rds is heavy.

 

[2506]

There needs to be a system in place for notifying others in your area if you're being ATF raided or otherwise having an illegal raid commited I think. If not it'll be too easy to start picking us off one by one.

The recent SCOTUS ruling on the 4th Amendment should scare the beejesus out of all of us.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

The recent SCOTUS ruling on the 4th Amendment should scare the beejesus out of all of us.

Not a big deal for them in the "Fly Over" part of the country

 

[wired]

I haven't played the latest versions of FPS games - I'm sure It can't help but I don't think it's the core reason. Why do I think that? How about all of those generations of running around the neighborhoods / woods with toy guns playing make believe war? All those real fist fights growing up? All the real shooting of game Animals / hunting?

Alll that other stuff, the fist fights, the animal killing, the running etc is all real. Its work. You get punched in the face you feel pain. It sucks. You dont want to do that again. Play FPS 10 hours a days so your mom doesnt have to deal with you and compound it with mood leveling drugs where the highs and lows are blunted and you start to lose touch with reality. You dont care about killing like you dont care about anything but it becomes all you think about. .

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

From all I have read there is some confusion around the issue of correlation and causation here. While it may be true that people with violent tendencies are drawn to violent video games I have yet to see any decent study that shows video games TURN people violent

But if you know of one I would love to read it

 

[shibbershabber]

Alll that other stuff, the fist fights, the animal killing, the running etc is all real. Its work. You get punched in the face you feel pain. It sucks. You dont want to do that again. Play FPS 10 hours a days so your mom doesnt have to deal with you and compound it with mood leveling drugs where the highs and lows are blunted and you start to lose touch with reality. You dont care about killing like you dont care about anything but it becomes all you think about. .

I never bought into that argument... But I fail to realize that I am of strong mind and despite hours of gaming, I am still grounded in reality & have analog relationships...

Many do not have that and aren't strong minded.

Anything you subject yourself to can carry over into reality. Like when youre car shopping and a model youre interested in is suddenly everywhere...

Likewise in gaming... Theres is a FPS game I play... Not daily and not for hours at a time... But...
In the game you have to shoot out surveillance cameras... I have trained myself essentially to spot them, so when Im out driving my eyes are suddenly drawn to the cameras at the intersection, etc... an unintentional response to my irl environment courtesy of gaming.
Another example, enemies drive newer model white pickups... In the game you spot them on the road and engage them... Like the cameras, while on the road Id find myself zeroing in on white late model pickups

Porn & gaming addiction are the same. There is a desensitizing effect and other effects on the mind that cannot be denied.

That said I dont support bans or anything stupid like that... But it is something to consider when psychologically examining a child

 

[wired]

From all I have read there is some confusion around the issue of correlation and causation here. While it may be true that people with violent tendencies are drawn to violent video games I have yet to see any decent study that shows video games TURN people violent

But if you know of one I would love to read it

You should watch the documentary