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A means to restore constitutional values into Education.

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by U201491, Oct 18, 2013.

  1. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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  2. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    That works great if there is a viable alternative available, but in many rural communities; the public school system is all there is. There isn't enough of a population base to support a private education system in a town of 7,000, most of whom are retired.

    Nothing to force competitive improvement in the State run schools here..... Everybody loses without parent and community involvement.
     
  3. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Isn't the initial take for each child like $14,000 per year in Oregon? What's the standard class size/what does/can one teacher normally teach.. 30? What's 30x14? Maybe someone might "step up".
     
  4. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Regardless of what the solution is, if we ever wish to have a viable free country again, education has to be taken out of socialist and marxist hands and returned to the people to control. If that isnt done soon the new text books will be the book of Mao and the Koran. :mad:
     
  5. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    My point is that most parents with kids can't afford $14,000/yr. unless the State is willing to gut it's funding of the public schools to provide subsidies to parents to send their kids to private school. A teacher's salary in a good private school might run $70,000 with benefits, Administration (Principal and Secretary) another $130,000, a building at $5,000/month is a $60,000/yr. investment, utilities and a cafeteria with staff would run easily $100,000/yr. All totaled $360,000 with one teacher, a cafeteria and two kitchen workers, no administration and no custodial staff. At $14,000 per year per student, you would need 25 students just to break even....

    Notice there were no desks, text books, nothing but a building and personnel. I didn't add the cost of kitchen equipment into the cafeteria, but that would run another $100,000, easily. Let me say that it sounds good, but you would be hard pressed to find anyone willing to Step Up with investment capital. JMO
     
  6. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    But they/we do for each and every blessed one.

    I don't know if they can "opt out" with their monies and childerns or not.. I think they can.

    And you left out the Vice-Administrator to the Undersecretary of Neighborhood lunch-box Planning. just so you know
     
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  7. Sling Blade

    Sling Blade Yamhill County Well-Known Member

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    This is where the author of the article lost any credibility: "Why should my wife and I be forced to pay for my neighbor’s children? Please don’t tell me it’s a civic duty."

    Oh really? That's like saying a person only wants to pay for the piece of road s/he uses, even though trucks using another portion of road are hauling that person's food and freight.

    Another silly easy fix that sounds good but is nowhere near realistic.
     
  8. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Oh, and I forgot to add.. that's a "part-time job". They work what, six-seven hours a day and eight months a year? come on.. with benefits/retirement all told (not normalized to equal a full year of labor), it's like $150,000 a year for a part-time job that you can't get fired from.
     
  9. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    Uha... Many take their work home, or do two to three hours of class prep either before students arrive or after students leave the campus, but; unless they are in a "year round" campus, yes they have nearly three months paid time off in the summer months. That and when you consider they have to deal with all the students ( I use the term loosely) social problems the neglecting parents fail to deal with, they are under paid.

    Not a job I would want. I've taught adults and, they are bad enough; but kids!! They are the Devil!!
     
  10. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    How about just we kick the arses of the worst offenders out in the parking lots when they get off work until they pull their heads out? I'll do it for free! ;)
     
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  11. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Either get the leftist absurdity out of the schools and teach pride in our country
    without the "Blame" The pacifist, the leftist marxist undermining and have every class monitored
    every minute, and dump the so called educators that try to teach that or the following..........

    "There are numerous less expensive educational options that offer freedom over compulsion and a much better education. In the long-run, parents taking responsibility for the education of their own children will be great for their children and America and will remove the liberal’s power base.

    We’ve been trying to save government schools for 50 years. You would think that 50 years of failure would teach us something.

    Read more at http://godfatherpolitics.com/12935/new-tax-plan-end-government-education/#sMWjoUQgRRrd3evd.99"
     
  12. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Sling Blade Yamhill County Well-Known Member

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    Good reading, Burt.
     
  14. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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