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That would be the only thing that might steer me to the 450 bm vs the 458 socom.So is MI one of those states that allows 450BM for deer and otherwise it's shotgun only ?
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That would be the only thing that might steer me to the 450 bm vs the 458 socom.So is MI one of those states that allows 450BM for deer and otherwise it's shotgun only ?
That is, I believe a big reason for the 450BM's popularity.That would be the only thing that might steer me to the 450 bm vs the 458 socom.
Yes. In limited firearm zones, min 1.16" and max 1.8" case length, straight wall. Conservation Officers know to use "actual" case length, such as cut down 45-70, not parent case length. They will actually measure a wildcat like 357ARMaximum.(though proper brass is available from Starline)So is MI one of those states that allows 450BM for deer and otherwise it's shotgun only ?
Yes. In limited firearm zones, min 1.16" and max 1.8" case length, straight wall. Conservation Officers know to use "actual" case length, such as cut down 45-70, not parent case length. They will actually measure a wildcat like 357ARMaximum.(though proper brass is available from Starline)
I have NOT reloaded 450 BM or 458 SOCOM.
I just thought with the straight wall, as opposed to the small shoulder, I would find 450 Bushmaster easier. It appears they would be the same effort. I don't know if the 458 sizing die uses an expanding ball, and the 450 does not.
Joe
Do you have a source for inexpensive .458 projectiles (lower weights are fine since I will mostly be punching holes in paper)?
These seem like a decent deal if they would work in 458 socom set up?Do you have a source for inexpensive .458 projectiles (lower weights are fine since I will mostly be punching holes in paper)?
Any idea how brass life compares to 450 BM?
I should be able to size down some heavier 458 bullets if I needed the heavier weight. I have been looking at the 458 bullets and they seem to be quite a bit higher in price. The socom brass is only about a dime more per case but I haven't found a good answer on brass life comparisons of the two cartridges.458, way more boolit choices from about 250-600 grain, makes it very versatile
I don't have any .50 projectiles (except for ML stuff). I could consider a 12.7x42 upper but bear creek is out of them at the moment. Brass seems to be priced about the same as 450 BM brass. I have a 7.62 bolt that I could use if I could find a cheap barrel and build my own upper. I will add it to the list for consideration.If I can throw a wrench in the gears and ask; why not a .50 offering? Sounds like you're not too married to any particular bullet weight or suppressors, though you'd prefer .45 caliber stuff. I've found many things half inch happen to be slow to disappear from shelves..... I know .50 Beowulf is a thing and I'm sure there are other options, possibly a true straight wall....
45 raptor. Go big or go home.While I am taking a break from my firearm spending freeze, I want to purchase a big bore AR upper. I am leaning towards 450 BM because I have a ton of 45 projectiles already but might consider 458 SOCOM. I will most likely be running this in single shot mode through the magazine and sometimes loading through the ejection port. This will be strictly a range use fun gun and I will only be running reloads through it. I may experiment with black powder loads. For those who have shot and reloaded for both which do you think would be best?
Nice but for the large frame AR.45 raptor. Go big or go home.
I don't reload, but I know there is a ton of options.Do you have a source for inexpensive .458 projectiles (lower weights are fine since I will mostly be punching holes in paper)?
Any idea how brass life compares to 450 BM?
I know, just being the class clown.Nice but for the large frame AR.
OP is working with the small frame.