Oregon 2023 Gun Bills Dropped

wingspar · Jan 10, 2023

ColeInOregon said:
Meet the Liberator 3d printed pistol:
View attachment 1343767

That's not what I was picturing. I would think that an x-ray machine would see that, even it if was in parts. Somebody else can shoot that. I'll watch from the next county.

wingspar · Jan 10, 2023

arakboss said:
I am going to assume yes as long as it's serialized by a gunsmith or other FFL, I will be comfortable possesing it.

SECTION 4. (1) A person may not knowingly possess, offer for sale, sell or transfer a
firearm unless the firearm has been imprinted with a serial number by a federally licensed
firearm manufacturer, importer or dealer, or a gunsmith with a federal firearms license, in
accordance with federal law.

My father gave me a .22 LR bolt action rifle when I was old enough to shoot it. The rifle was made in the 1940's and has no serial number as I don't think they were required back then. However, if you take the stock off, he had the family name professionally engraved on the barrel. Legal today??

The Dude-Uh · Jan 10, 2023

wingspar said:
This is beyond my capability to understand, but how can a firearm be a firearm if there is no detectable metal in the firearm? I did not know that there was any metal in existence that could not be detected by a metal detector. What is the barrel made of? Doesn't sound like anything I'd want in my hands.

There was a fictional undetectable Glock in a movie back in the day. That scared everyone into thinking it was real and banning it which is how we got the federal law.

wingspar · Jan 10, 2023

The Dude-Uh said:
There was a fictional undetectable Glock in a movie back in the day. That scared everyone into thinking it was real and banning it which is how we got the federal law.

That fits in with the clueless legislators of today.

titsonritz · Jan 10, 2023

Koda said:
"but nobody's trying to take away your guns"

Darn tootin' their not, unlessen they want to get shot tryin'.

arakboss · Jan 10, 2023

wingspar said:
My father gave me a .22 LR bolt action rifle when I was old enough to shoot it. The rifle was made in the 1940's and has no serial number as I don't think they were required back then. However, if you take the stock off, he had the family name professionally engraved on the barrel. Legal today??

Yes

thorborg · Jan 10, 2023

"land of the free"
Now officially relegated to folklore status.

SonicBlue03 · Jan 10, 2023

Stomper said:
Enter Prozanski….

Of course he's from Eugene.
Might be fun to have a Freedom BBQ on his front lawn sometime.

Librarian · Jan 10, 2023

SonicBlue03 said:
Of course he's from Eugene.
Might be fun to have a Freedom BBQ on his front lawn sometime.

He should go back to being an NPC in Planetfall.

Rkangel · Jan 10, 2023

Knobgoblin said:
View attachment 1343328

John McClane 2:0.
The sad thing is that there are lawmakers whose only expertise on firearms is what they see in the movies. This, along with silencer myths are prime examples. That's probably where they get the "high capacity magazine" crap from, too. They never see anyone reload in the movies, so they think magazines have infinite ammo...

PiratePast40 · Jan 10, 2023

Stomper said:
Enter Prozanski….

Might as well start getting ready for the Texas LTC live fire exam again.

Anyone else remember when he went from Traffic court Floyd to Texas Floyd?

PiratePast40 · Jan 11, 2023

Danall · Jan 12, 2023

Here's a gun bill i would like PROPOSED as one of my new years wish.

It would disband/dissolve the OSP FICS program and provide for direct FFL to NICS contact for BGCs.
(Like the majority of the States do)
As a compromise i would suggest a change from the current 3 day provision to expand it to a 10 day period.
Which mostly becomes a moot point as the NICS system clears approx 90 percent instantly.
This would never fly because 1) it saves taxpayer money, 2) is logical and reasonable, 3) gets rid of an entrenched gov entity.
Oh yes, the bill would also not allow any boondoggle of a permit system which will also be another taxpayer funded mess.
Keep it simple, direct FFL to NICS and save Oregon taxpayer $$.

Yarome · Jan 12, 2023

Danall said:
As a compromise i would suggest a change from the current 3 day provision to expand it to a 10 day period.

Since when was it written within the constitution that preservation of inalienable rights requires compromise with those that seek to infringe on those rights??

That seems to be a fatal thought process flaw among our "pro-2A" legistators as well that needs to STOP! Inalienable rights are nonnegotiable.

Opening the door to allow infringments, no matter how small, only chums the waters for greater infringment "compromises".

arakboss · Jan 12, 2023

Danall said:
Here's a gun bill i would like PROPOSED as one of my new years wish.

It would disband/dissolve the OSP FICS program and provide for direct FFL to NICS contact for BGCs.
(Like the majority of the States do)
As a compromise i would suggest a change from the current 3 day provision to expand it to a 10 day period.
Which mostly becomes a moot point as the NICS system clears approx 90 percent instantly.
This would never fly because 1) it saves taxpayer money, 2) is logical and reasonable, 3) gets rid of an entrenched gov entity.
Oh yes, the bill would also not allow any boondoggle of a permit system which will also be another taxpayer funded mess.
Keep it simple, direct FFL to NICS and save Oregon taxpayer $$.

Sounds good except I propose we change three day period to three hours and nationally.

wingspar · Jan 12, 2023

PiratePast40 said:
I also have the lists in Excel spreadsheets and Access databases if anyone wants them. My lists include physical addresses, web pages, and phone numbers. These were derived from the CVS files on the legislature website. If someone can recommend a publicly available cloud storage site, I can post them there as well.

[email protected]
may need to change David seat soon as he is going Senate

David Brock Smith is one of the good guys. I've exchanged emails with him over 114 and we need more like him in political office.

Yarome · Jan 12, 2023

PiratePast40 said:
If someone can recommend a publicly available cloud storage site, I can post them there as well.

I've used google drive in the past. It's free but requires account registration.

Personal Cloud Storage & File Sharing Platform - Google

Learn about Google Drive’s file sharing platform that provides a personal, secure cloud storage option to share content with other users.

www.google.com

PiratePast40 · Jan 12, 2023

Yarome said:
I've used google drive in the past. It's free but requires account registration.

Personal Cloud Storage & File Sharing Platform - Google

Learn about Google Drive’s file sharing platform that provides a personal, secure cloud storage option to share content with other users.

www.google.com

Looked at different options and I don't think any of them will satisfy the users here that want unlimited access. They would still need to be authorized to access the files. I's just as easy to have people PM me for the files since they would need to do that to gain access anyway,

Yarome · Jan 12, 2023

PiratePast40 said:
Looked at different options and I don't think any of them will satisfy the users here that want unlimited access. They would still need to be authorized to access the files. I's just as easy to have people PM me for the files since they would need to do that to gain access anyway,

Well... like I said... I've used google drive and as long as they have the file link... they have free access without restrictions or requiring registration.

114_flyer.pdf

drive.google.com

Set generall access to, "Anyone on the internet with the link can view"

Personally, I'm adverse to the "PM, giving out personal email, wait for a file to be sent" method. Experience shows it's often unreliable, time consuming, and defeats free and ready access to info if you require too many steps and time to disseminate it. More folks are willing to pass the info along if it doesn't require much of a personal time and effort investment to do so.

Just a suggestion....

PiratePast40 · Jan 12, 2023

Yarome said:
Well... like I said... I've used google drive and as long as they have the file link... they have free access without restrictions or requiring registration.

114_flyer.pdf

drive.google.com

Set generall access to, "Anyone on the internet with the link can view"

Personally, I'm adverse to the "PM, giving out personal email, wait for a file to be sent" method. Experience shows it's often unreliable, time consuming, and defeats free and ready access to info if you require too many steps and time to disseminate it. More folks are willing to pass the info along if it doesn't require much of a personal time and effort investment to do so.

Just a suggestion....

Didn't realize it could be accessed without permission. I'll set it up. Will ne interesting to see how many people actually take the time to use it,

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