What the heck are these?

[STUKA]

Andy??!
Anyone?
Described as wallhangers,which is what I'd obviously do with them.
No other pictures of markings or anything.

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[Stomper]

@Andy54Hawken may lend some insight to these.....

 

[Member 45541]

Yep, I'm sure Andy will have an idea or be able to point you in the right direction. He'll be along some time after he gets released from school by his students.

 

[2Wheels4Ever]

They look like jezails; from Afghanistan.

 

[MacReady]

Well the locks look like French Tabatiere rifle or at least in that style. Stocks remind me of Afghan or Khyber pass trade guns. Would be interesting to see closeups of markings to decipher if theyre cobbled from 'real' issued rifles or completely homemade.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Interesting...

I would agree with the Afghan / Khyber pass trade gun notion ...or the Jezail style of firearm.
Maybe even North African...however...most North African firearms have bone / ivory inlays and wire work...

The stocks are shaped so the shooter , fires the gun from the center of his chest.
Not the best of ideas..but I could see that working from the back of a horse or camel.

They have back action percussion locks...so late period...say 1840's - 1870s for the muzzle loading era.
That said...
The could have been made much later....since that style of firearm hung around for a long while.
And with the souvenir trade being what it is...damn near anything is possible.

Andy

 

[Stomper]

Interesting...

I would agree with the Afghan / Khyber pass trade gun notion ...or the Jezail style of firearm.
Maybe even North African...however...most North African firearms have bone / ivory inlays and wire work...

The stocks are shaped so the the shooter , fires the gun from the center of his chest.
Not the best of ideas..but I could see that working from the back of a horse or camel.

The have back action percussion locks...so late period...say 1840's - 1870s for the muzzle loading era.
That said...
The could have been made much later....since that style of firearm hung around for a long while.
And with the souvenir trade being what it is...damn near anything is possible.

Andy

So you're saying North African firearms are the Tijuana Taxis of firearms styling....

 

[Andy54Hawken]

So you're saying North African firearms are the Tijuana Taxis of firearms styling....

Si....
Andy

 

[STUKA]

Quick search of Jezail shows they supposedly had very long barrels..
So is it safe to assume these are either cut down, or copies sold at an Afghan bazaar to GI's?

Asking price is $150 for the pair- they might be kinda cool for the mantle..then again,that same money would buy me something I can actually use.
Thanks all,another educational day on NWFA.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Yep...could be cut down...difficult to tell from the photo.

$150....ehhh....not a bad price.
However...they are also not something that I would want .
Andy