Want a Silencer but need help choosing?

[P7M13]

Here is an comprehensive comparison study with outstanding science behind it - meaning no subjective opinions.

2023 SILENCER SUMMIT SOUND TEST RESULTS

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[Andy54Hawken]

With the ammo shortage of years past...many of my firearms were silent....
Kidding here...thanks for posting the link.
Andy

 

[TTSX]

That's a LOT of info. Some surprising results, some not so much

 

[3MTA3]

One thing that gets missed in most of these tests is where do you want the noise suppressed? Some designs are better at suppressing the noise to the shooter's ear (like flow through design) while others are better at suppressing the noise from the target (conventional design). It's nice that this testing put the microphones in positions to record both.

 

[nammac]

This should be pinned, lots of useful information in the link….

Not that the question of which suppressor is best for…. Ever comes up…

 

[ilikegunspdx]

While partly on topic yet off as well, what suppressors do people recommend and what ones should be avoided?

That's a little like asking what are the good guns and what are the bad, opinions will vary and weighted largely in personal experience with a particular brand.

Multi cal or hybrid will have less performance than caliber specific. Newer design sl tend to incorporate "flow through" technology. I would buy in stock only, from either capital armory or a ffl that works through silncershop.

Some factors to consider from another thread:

1) diameter - wider ones may affect whether you can use a red dot without a riser or if you can use your regular sights vs higher "suppressor sights

2) length/volume - in general shorter cans are louder, especially through pistols. But design and short but wide can be similarly effective so just a generalization fwiw

3) piston/booster - if you shoot a pistol with tilting barrel (ie glock and anything else that doesn't have a fixed barrel (ignoring a couple exceptions)) you need a piston for it to work well consistently. Some brands sell piston separately for up to $200 and some suppressors include it with the suppreasor

4) back pressure - some suppressors have a "flow theough" design that reduces back pressure (in some cases to zero). This has multiple benefits, a) less gas in your face, b) less crud buildup on the bolt etc., c) potentially less effect on reliabilty particularly with guns such as mp5 that is susceptible to back pressure changing the bolt operation.

5) first round pop - some are designed to limit this. First round pop is when the oxygen in the suppressor gets burnt off in the first shot making the first shot louder than all the rest. I don't know enough about this to speak on it intelligently.

6) sound levels - imo the sound level varies less than the manufacturers would have you believe but tone can be different for sure. But again I'm not knowledgeable enough to speak on this other than I really do pay attention to reviewers such as Mr gunsmgear who take the measurements with the right meter, in the right way

7) ease of cleaning - better and more expensive materials such as titanium typically reduce cleaning from what I understand. I'll bow to others who know more about the specifics of this but some cans are made for easier take down with wrench flats for example and some cans are not designed to be user serviced (rare). Some of the 3d printed titanium 1 piece cans are designed to be used with a "special sauce" or similar chemical soak.

8) modularity - some suppressors can be used at 2 different lengths while others can be used at 10 different lengths or more - erector and Odessa 9 come to mind and there are others.

9) ability to accept a wipe - a wipe is a piece of rubber/other material you put in the front that reduces noise. It wears out and you replace it. Wolfman Fe gives you the info on what hardware store rubber washer to buy and makes it easy to replace.

10) weight

11) Is it rated for full auto use? (If needed)

12) Is it rated for the cartridge you will use? Many of the 9mm cans Fe are rated for use with 300 blackout subsonic but not 300 blackout supersonic.

 

[Local Loader]

Take a look at the TBAC Magnus unless you want lightweight.

Running mostly heavy barrel but wouldn't mind lightweight if it preforms the same.

 

[solv3nt]

Running mostly heavy barrel but wouldn't mind lightweight if it preforms the same.

Ultra 7 Gen2 as well.

 

[SavageGerbil]

22 is the absolute best to suppress, it goes downhill from there. Sounds like rifle is what you're looking for, now you'll need to decide if you want lightweight or max suppression. I've got a Thunder Beat Ultra 7 Gen2 in jail, and I'm looking to get a Thunder Beast Magnus going. Both are 30 cal suppressors with two different missions.

I love my .22 can. They're cheap, ridiculously well functioning, and unbeatable when it comes to pure joy. I've got a 9mm can already, and have a .30 on the way, but the .22 is always gonna be my favorite.

I wish I'd bought one years before. I've trained a few shooters, and being able to give instruction without hearing protection for the early stages would've been pretty handy

 

[Bolt_308]

I love my .22 can. They're cheap, ridiculously well functioning, and unbeatable when it comes to pure joy. I've got a 9mm can already, and have a .30 on the way, but the .22 is always gonna be my favorite.

I wish I'd bought one years before. I've trained a few shooters, and being able to give instruction without hearing protection for the early stages would've been pretty handy

I agree- nothing touches a 22 for both sound suppression wise as well as cost. After I bought all the cans, I ended up buying several other 22 guns- couple of pistols and a rifle, to use as both hosts for the cans as well as trainers- set them up as an exact copy/replica of my primary home defense guns. I can shoot the 22 versions all day for super cheap, and also super quietly on my property- even though the closest neighbor is like a quarter mile away, you can still hear the unsuppressed guns pretty clearly, as gunshots carry pretty far. With the suppressed 22s, it is about the same sound as a staple gun, cant hear anything!! ;-)

 

[Willysmb]

Yeah, our .22 can gets used quite a lot relative to the others. I purposely chose the most rugged one I could find. Steel tube and baffles. A little bit heavier than other offerings, but well worth it.

I mention the "Steel" issue because I'd like to bring up a bit of info for those that may not know. If your suppressor can be taken apart for cleaning AND it has aluminum components, DO NOT put those components into a sonic cleaner.

Not sure about wet tumbling with/without pins though. Perhaps someone can provide info on that?

Best regards.

WMB

 

[Willysmb]

Ok, quick backpedal here.

You can, in fact, use an ultrasonic cleaner to clean aluminum parts.

However, it is not as simple as cleaning steel.

Without getting into the weeds too deep, for me, the juice is not worth the squeeze.

I'll close by saying if you want to use an ultrasonic cleaner for aluminum, please research before you toss them in & hit the "On" button.

OK, I'm ready for my beating now, lol!

Best regards.

WMB

 

[Bolt_308]

Ok, quick backpedal here.

You can, in fact, use an ultrasonic cleaner to clean aluminum parts.

However, it is not as simple as cleaning steel.

Without getting into the weeds too deep, for me, the juice is not worth the squeeze.

I'll close by saying if you want to use an ultrasonic cleaner for aluminum, please research before you toss them in & hit the "On" button.

OK, I'm ready for my beating now, lol!

Best regards.

WMB

I havent tried it yet, but I just got some of the new Breakthrugh Clean Suppressor cleaner. Supposed to work really well and be safe on aluminum. Hoping it will work well on my RUGGED Mustang

 

[ORhutner]

I'm picking up my new Daed Air Mask HD later today, now I'll have the best of both worlds, an all aluminum 22lr can and now a heavy duty one for heavy use.

One of my favorite 22lr cans and I find it still balances very well on a lot of pistols. You can run it on a 5.7x28 gun also but it has some wicked back pressure on centerfire rounds.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

I'm picking up my new Daed Air Mask HD later today, now I'll have the best of both worlds, an all aluminum 22lr can and now a heavy duty one for heavy use.

I did a similar strategy. Aluminum 3.9oz? one I've had a long time and new titanium 3.7oz. flow through one.

 

[Jcon268]

While partly on topic yet off as well, what suppressors do people recommend and what ones should be avoided?

I'm starting to lean more towards suppressors that are serviceable. You have to consider the possibility of things like baffle strikes or tailcap strikes and how readily it can be repaired. One thing I'd not really considered is that, if your suppressor is sent in to be repaired for any significant damage, the serial # has to still be intact according to the ATF, I believe.....
Most makers are putting the serial# closer to the proximal end of the of the suppressor where it will be less likely to incur damage so that this part can be salvaged in the repair.
The other thing I take into consideration is the mounting system. A good mounting system with good lockup will help avoid damage from occurring and make storing and using your suppressor a lot more enjoyable...
As far as decibel requirements, I just want whatever I shoot to be hearing safe or very close to it. I buy them for use on HD guns where I might need to tend to a threat in my home and not blow my family's ear drums out. The tone of the sound or whether it's a few extra decibels quieter doesn't mean as much to me as those other things I mentioned.

 

[solv3nt]

I managed to talk myself out of the TBAC Magnus.

 

[TTSX]

I managed to talk myself out of the TBAC Magnus.

We don't do that here. Un-talk yourself back into it.

 

[solv3nt]

We don't do that here. Un-talk yourself back into it.

I also talked myself out of an Alchemy Prime Elite in hard chrome.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Just hit the order button for an OSS RAD45 pistol suppressor. I've been on the fence about a pistol can for a while but with stock drying up and this particular model meeting my needs, I decided to jump. Kinda kicking myself for spending the money but I kicked myself harder when it said "out of stock" after mulling it over and sitting on my hands all day. Was double checking my other options and it said that model had 3 in stock so I didn't hesitate a second longer. Just got an email confirmation for a product reservation, awaiting serial number assignment so we'll see if I actually get one....


Man it's wild out there

Rad 45 should be awesome. The list of calibers is impressive. There is a video of a guy shooting 9mm through rad 9 and then through rad 45 and there is very little difference in sound. The modularity and flow baffles are a big bonus too.

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