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Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by ARKLITE881South, Dec 17, 2012.

  1. ARKLITE881South

    ARKLITE881South USA Well-Known Member

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    WAKE UP PEOPLE> I see the democrats are hard at work at the capital in SALEM, the oregon gun control advocates have GAINED 12 more cosponsors, [ALL democrats] of a bill that would BAN semi automatic rifles classified as ''assault rifles ''. HOW can it be a ''assault rifle" if it is NOT. A assault rifle has select fire capability both FULL AUTO and SEMI auto fire. Civilian ar's, and ak's are semi auto ONLY.

    What ,the [democrats, and present administration] are saying is, its ok to ABORT [ KILL] BABY'S, but, you cannot have a SEMI automatic rifle. And, by not allowing CCW in schools, and shopping malls, making them ''gun free''zones they have also made it ILLEGAL for one to protect yourself and students in a school or shopping mall, when that is THE ONLY effective way of resisting a gunman.


    Like they say, oregon and washington are 2 of Kalifornias largest countys . If you are a gun owner/shooter, you should make your voice heard.
     
  2. JGRuby

    JGRuby Portland Oregon New Member

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    So that must mean that the M14's I got qualified in teh service on are not assualt weapons because the ones we had on our submarines were all semi auto. I do not understand how or where the word assualt rifle comes from or means. I consider a semi auto designed for military or based on a military rifle to be an assualt rifle also.

    James Ruby
     
  3. gruntjim

    gruntjim Beaverton Member

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    Per the DOD, an assault rifle has select-fire capability, and fires an intermediate cartridge. Therefore, the M14 is not an assault rifle. Nor are shoulder arms without select-fire capability.
     
  4. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    This (from Wikipedia) seems to be the generally accepted version but there are others.

    The term assault rifle is a translation of the German word Sturmgewehr (literally "storm rifle", as in "to storm a position"). The name was coined by Adolf Hitler[3] as a new name for the Maschinenpistole 43,[nb 1] subsequently known as the Sturmgewehr 44, the firearm generally considered the first assault rifle that served to popularise the concept and form the basis for today's modern assault rifles.
     
  5. Morpheus

    Morpheus Columbia Gorge Anyway, back on the farm.

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    Write your senator and your reps. Federal and State. Tell them what you think. Do it now. Squawking on a forum does very little. While writing them may not do much more, you are at least voicing your opinion to them.
     
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  6. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The M-14 is a battle rifle because it fires a full powered cartridge. In the army mine had a selector switch.

    I have never quite figured out why Californian liberals after making their own state unlivable migrate up here and vote to make Oregon just like California. Simple blindness I presume.
     
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  7. JGRuby

    JGRuby Portland Oregon New Member

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    So when they sign the assualt weapons ban M1-A's, G3's and FAL's will not be on there because they are not assualt weapons? Yeah right.

    James Ruby
     
  8. mrblond

    mrblond Salem OR Well-Known Member

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    Its the domino effect again. the reds in the PRK are invading their border states like Oregon and Arizona and pushing their commie crap there.
     
  9. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    No blindness at all just the simple physics of liberalism. They move to Oregon and don't appreciate or see what it has to offer, but only see what they think it needs, which is most of what they left behind in California and work hard to recreate.
     
  10. ARKLITE881South

    ARKLITE881South USA Well-Known Member

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    I think you might be confusing the M1A with the M-14, when i carried a M-14 in 67 it was defiantly a FULL AUTO, select fire weapon.As per JGRUBY"s post about a M-14 on a submarine being semi auto only, i do not know anything about that. But, i can see why. confined quarters, lots of problems with a 20 round mag being expended in close quarters. And, the Press has labeled most or anything that's black and,or, looks like a military issue type weapon as a ''assault rifle''
     
  11. ARKLITE881South

    ARKLITE881South USA Well-Known Member

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    WHO said they wouldn't be considered an ''assault weapon??
     
  12. Key-Hay

    Key-Hay North Carolina Active Member

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    They see AR15s as "Evil Black Rifles". Think I'll Ceracote mine in different colors like pink and yellow. Now their not scary anymore.
     
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  13. gruntjim

    gruntjim Beaverton Member

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    I'm not confused in the slightest. The G3 is a battle rifle, as is the M-14. Despite their full-auto capability, they still fire a full powered cartridge. An assault rifle fires an intermediate, such as 7.62 x 39, 5.45 x 39, or 5.56 x 45mm. And he mentioned an M14, not an M1A. My last trip into Iraq, some of our designated marksmen had M-14's, and as such, they had range and penetrative advantages way beyond that of our M-4's.
     
  14. JGRuby

    JGRuby Portland Oregon New Member

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    It was stated that they werent assult weapons on here by Gruntjim.
    Cant be both - either one way or the other.

    James Ruby
     
  15. odinforever2000

    odinforever2000 Eugene,Or New Member

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    Technically Those Rifles are not assault weapons because they don't use an intermediate cartridge.However...those who what to ban the evil 'black rifle' will lump them into that category anyway.That will probably include any auto loader that accepts a magazine greater than 10 rounds..

    I had to explain to a Nam' era veteran yesterday at my local gun store why the rack of AR15s he was looking at weren't assault rifles.This mistake is because of how our media likes catch phrases like "assault rifle, high powered, clips,and armor piercing" to scare the public.
     
  16. DSAPT9

    DSAPT9 North Idaho Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    So is this a safe rifle it is not black! This is my wifes she did not like camo!

    purpleak.jpg
     
  17. DSAPT9

    DSAPT9 North Idaho Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    Most military M-14’s where full auto but the selector was pinned for semi only as they were hard to control in full auto with out proper training. They are also classed as a battle rifles because of the “full power 7.62x51 “used.
     
  18. odinforever2000

    odinforever2000 Eugene,Or New Member

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    That..is pretty..
     
  19. BSG 75

    BSG 75 Oregon Well-Known Member

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    People who know absolutely nothing about guns, and who judge them based only upon their looks and color, agree with you. That's how rifles that are not "assault rifles" get banned by an "assault weapon" ban.

    In other words, you agree with the Brady Campaign and Dianne Feinstein. You are known by the company you keep.
     
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  20. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Those would make great wedding presents in WA!