Quantcast
  1. Sign up now and join over 35,000 northwest gun owners. It's quick, easy, and 100% free!

Update: Walked off the job today

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Bushman, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. Bushman

    Bushman Auburn, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    495
    Likes Received:
    422
    Original post: Isn't giving a days notice, still giving notice?

    Or is it generally not counted unless you give 2 weeks notice?

    Update: this morning I gave notice that today was going to be my last day. Word spread pretty quickly. CEO wanted to chat to try to stop me, and I essentially told him I've said all I have to say. My boss (Vice President) emailed me asking if I want to talk before end of day.

    I didn't respond. He came out of the CEO's office later that day and stopped by my cube and asked if I wanted to talk. I told him I was good. This was in front of all my colleauges, who applauded me. All day I received emails and IM's about how they (company management) have no idea how adversely this is going to affect them. They underestimate how easy it will be to replace me and my skill set. My colleagues stopped by and emailed in droves with compliments, noting they know that I've been carrying the workload for others in the company and the piss poor management I have to deal with.

    I gave honest answers in my exit interview with the HR director. I rated my boss (the VP) very poorly. I told her that although I'm sure I'm not elligible for rehire for not giving more notice, I have no intention of ever returning. With my resume, and skillsets, I have my pick of plenty of other opportunities and wouldn't waste anymore of my time working for a company with such poor management and hopelessly lost management.

    Note: Yes, I have another job lined up. I had four other offers 3 of which are for more money, and better benefits, commute, etc. Taking some time between jobs.
     
  2. Stokes

    Stokes Washington State Member

    Messages:
    44
    Likes Received:
    13
    There are no laws about giving notice. If you're some sort of contractor, you might have to, but other than that, it's not an issue.

    If you were to get fired, would they give you one day, or two weeks notice? Nope, it's just that you're firing them instead of them firing you.
     
    Will_Power, Bushman, mjbskwim and 7 others like this.
  3. DieselScout

    DieselScout S Clackamas County Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,350
    Likes Received:
    1,726
    You have to ask yourself these questions "Will you need a recommendation from this job further down the road? Will they be listed on future resumes?" If the answers are yes, I'd try to leave on the best possible terms I could. Two weeks is traditional, but not required. I don't want to screw anyone over, but if it was a job I wasn't going to reference and my new job needed me tomorrow, I'd have to go with the new job. I've got to look out for me.
     
  4. Bushman

    Bushman Auburn, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    495
    Likes Received:
    422
    Not a contractor. Referencing them on my resume, of course they will be there. They will give the usual yes he worked here, his title was, and MAYBE whether I'm elligible for rehire.

    I worked there for 2 + years, and am firing them due to their incompetence. I've done this before at a previous employer and it worked out just fine.

    I'm more curious if it technically counts as "notice" if you just give a day.
     
  5. BK1

    BK1 Oregon New Member

    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    2
    I agree with the previous poster. You can give as much or as little notice as you want. However, if you want a good reference, it's a good idea to work with your employer to figure out a reasonable timeframe so you don't burn the bridge. Of course, what's appropriate really depends what kind of work you do. Some employers may not want you to stick around, others may ask for more time so you can train a replacement or whatever.
     
  6. nwdrifter

    nwdrifter troutdale oregon Active Member

    Messages:
    315
    Likes Received:
    144
    I will say years ago 2 weeks notice was common, and you worked that 2 weeks. Now more times then not if you line up another job with plans to start in two weeks and give 2 weeks notice you will be told to leave immediately and possibly be escorted from the building by security on the spot.

    Best case scenario is they make you leave as soon as they can get someone/anyone to cover your shift.

    Businesses do this these days not to be mean or vindictive to you, its for their security. The dont want the people pissing off their customers, stealing from the company, or screwing up the books before you leave. Same deal if they plan to fire you on Friday, if you find out early, you will be fired the minute they know you know.

    If you work for a company that gives employees 2 weeks notice of lay offs or severance pay if fired, fine give notice, but now days most companies give nothing and i would give them nothing in return.


    It didnt use to be this way but it is now.

    With that give notice at your own risk,

    If you can start the new job early and they will wait the 2 weeks if needed, fine give notice.
    If you cant start the new job before a certain date or they need you to start now, dont give any notice.

    I say look out for your self and your bills these days, because i would guess 95% of businesses will be looking after theirs and you want make is a day after giving notice let alone 2 weeks..
     
    Grunwald and (deleted member) like this.
  7. jfw

    jfw Clackamas county Active Member

    Messages:
    136
    Likes Received:
    44
    Agreed, burning bridges is not a good thing. Two weeks is just a curtosey.
     
  8. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    5,774
    Likes Received:
    4,964
    Most large companies won't do anything but verify dates of employment. My wife is the bookkeeper for an Albertsons store they won't even verify dates of emp in house they refer the caller to a web site where the only info is the past emps dates of emp. Of course this would vary from employer to employer. But most larger outfits want nothing to do with references for past emps its a legal nightmare.
     
    nwdrifter and (deleted member) like this.
  9. bikejunkie

    bikejunkie Salem Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    631
    Likes Received:
    294
    For me it depends on how I was treated by the employer. If they treated me well and Im just leaving for a better deal, Id give notice. If they were a bad employer and I could afford to give notice- Id take the high road and give notice, knowing if its the other way around Id get summarily dismissed. If the company has taken an active roll in ruining my life and every day going to work is the worst day of my life, Id tell them to get bent and leave
     
  10. Ironbar

    Ironbar Tigard, OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,553
    Likes Received:
    1,124
    Dont be a dick. Be a man and give 2 weeks notice.
     
    Adam12 and (deleted member) like this.
  11. Bushman

    Bushman Auburn, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    495
    Likes Received:
    422
    What does giving 2 weeks notice have to do with being a dick? I don't work as a barista or some retail gig.

    My company generally treats the employees like crap. My boss is a huge dick, and I have no intent to ever return. I've never gone back to any employer I've left, because generally there is a reason I left that employer...
     
    nwdrifter, Redcap, mosinguy1 and 11 others like this.
  12. Amp3911

    Amp3911 Portland New Member

    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    7
    It is common courtesy to give an employer two weeks notice. However, if you have another job to go to then you can give as much or little notice as you wish. Don't burn any bridges if you want to get a letter of recommendation.

    An employer doesn't need to give you any notice, they can just let you go.

    Hope that this helps!
     
  13. Mrand55

    Mrand55 Salem Member

    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    34
    It depends on the work IMO. My rule of thumb has always been give 2 weeks notice and if your new employer has a problem with you giving that courtesy to your former employer then they may not be a company you want to work for. That being said, I've only worked for 2 companies in my adult life so take that for what it's worth.
     
  14. billgrigsby24

    billgrigsby24 Beaverton, Or Active Member

    Messages:
    402
    Likes Received:
    163
    Notice is notice but if you don't want to burn bridges, give 2 weeks. If it's a place you'll never work again or work with the same people then it's up to you. It's good form to give 2 weeks.
     
  15. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,833
    Likes Received:
    1,175
    if it is a lousy company that treats its employees poorly and your immediate boss is a dick then just quit.
    Also, how do they dismiss people? Where I am at they have fired people on the spot and had security escort them out the door. The fired employee did not even have the chance to get his stuff of his desk. Simply was told that it will be boxed up and he can pick it up next day or whatever.
    If that is the sort of treatment you can expect, then just quit on the spot.
    Loyalty goes both ways
     
  16. SCannon

    SCannon Battle Ground, WA Active Member

    Messages:
    262
    Likes Received:
    56
    Depends on how small your field is, if I gave one day I wouldn't ever get another job in my field, word of mouth is a powerful thing. 2 weeks at a minimum if I didn't like the job. My last job I left I gave 6 weeks.
     
  17. KalamaMark

    KalamaMark Kalama Wa Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    544
    Likes Received:
    263
    I've quit every job I ever had(some 2 or 3 times), and I always have given two weeks notice. Out of 8 different employers, all but one had me work the last two weeks to assist with the transition.

    I always had another, better job lined up before giving notice...hence the 2 or 3 time deal...early in my career I worked for small local outfits where they paid the bare minimum to keep you around..and I would have to redefine the bare minimum for them.

    I think giving two weeks is the stand up thing to do, and I've seen a lot of guys get burned down the road by leaving a job abruptly.

    It's a small world, and you can lose everything, but you'll always keep your reputation.
     
  18. Kelzebubba

    Kelzebubba Fort Worth, TX/USA Public Outhouse Active Member

    Messages:
    322
    Likes Received:
    178
    Depends on the companies reputation, how much your boss gets around the block, etc. etc. My former job was horrible. I had a supervisor that I did over half of his job for him (based on the company documented job-description for his title), handled 30% more clients than my fellow co-workers, and was treated like crap when I brought it up after 4 years of doing it. I was with the company for a total of 7 years too, but when I gave my two weeks notice I heard my boss on the phone with HR saying he just wanted to fire me and they told him that he couldn't do that, and he then called a meeting of all my co-workers (exempting me) and told them to no longer talk to me. After reporting his behavior about my notice to HR they gave me my last week of notice paid and told me not to come back. That day the boss of my boss got in my face about me going to HR over my supervisor's temperament (apparently my pay for that week was coming out of his bonus).

    In hindsight, I wish I would have just walked out. It was an abusive place, and that supervisor recently was laid off after being written up for "violent" type behavior that when I reported initially was swept under the rug. I say follow the golden rule, treat them as they have treated others.
     
  19. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot Clack Co. OR Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,130
    Likes Received:
    560
    How much notice do they give you when they need to cut down the workforce? They hand you an envelope.

    Agree tho, give them the same amount of respect that they gave you.

    In Oregon it's against the law for a former employer to give a bad reference (freakin crazy) so you can give em the finger and just bail if you want. I'm sure there are ways to say things though, 'He showed up most of the time' 'He was often sober' etc.
     
  20. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,293
    Likes Received:
    754


    Why??? If they fire you they dont give 2 weeks.your out the same day. I have seen HR WALK OUT ON THE FLOOR TELL A GUY GET YOUR STUFF AND GET OUT NOW...
     
    Grunwald and (deleted member) like this.