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UPDATE! Anchorage gun shop raises alarm over ATF request

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Dave Workman, Apr 10, 2012.

  1. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  2. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Somebody needs to reel-in the ATF. Think Holder is up to the task? :bluelaugh:
     
  3. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    He's probably the go between for the Prez!
     
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  4. sprocket3

    sprocket3 Oregon - Wet Side Member

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    I don't see what the big deal is with any of it. ATF asked for something and the owner said no! Sounds like a non-issue to me. But I only wasted 2 minutes on this so I could have missed something. Who raised the alarm?
     
  5. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    You didn't read the story either?
     
  6. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    :thumbup:

    Evidently not.
    ;)
     
  7. beavertonbuck

    beavertonbuck Beaverton Active Member

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    Over at glocktalk there was someone that got a call from the ATF. They wanted to to see his gun collection and showed him of guns he had purchased that they wanted to see. Nothing came of this but shows that we have defacto registration. Makes me appreciate private sales.
     
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  8. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    BATF and expletives has been doing this since at least the mid 1980s.. ATF is 110% unconstitutional, 150% tyrannical, and needs to be completely eliminated, not merely curtailed

    Anyone who thinks that the NICs checks are not being recorded is naive
     
  9. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely correct.
     
  10. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    anyone here that does not KNOW they are on a list are equaly naive; and it aint a Christmas list either
     
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    duran21 Lacey Active Member

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    Every one gets put on lists... from birth. I would rather the shop tell ATF to bring a warrant next time.
     
  12. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    ATF is arrogance personified, they will make that FFLs life hell if he does not "play". The beast must be eliminated
     
  13. DEADTIME

    DEADTIME Coeur D alene Active Member

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    A buddy of mine owns a gun shop and we have had talks about what he will do if the shtf, burning all records is top of the list.
     
  14. ericb

    ericb Klamath Falls, OR Active Member

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    I bought a gun at that shop a few years ago, bravo to those guys for keeping their records safe (out of the hands of the real criminals at the ATF)

    The folks at that shop were always friendly, and they always had a pot of coffee ready to go. Good guys.
     
  15. kyzug

    kyzug Banks, OR New Member

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    Alcohal, Tobacco, and Firearms should be a kick-*** store, not a government agency.
     
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  16. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  17. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    In the 1980s a Cali gun shop owner told me they were coming in with copy machines and making copies of ALL the 4473s.. this is old news, we have been had, people
     
  18. rdb241

    rdb241 Puyallup Washington Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    The ATF was originally set up after proabition to do one thing and one thing only. Collect the taxes from the revenue of "alcohol, tabacco, and firearms". When and who gave them law enforcement privliges? They have a very long track record. Remember "Ruby Ridge" and "Waco"?
     
  19. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Unmoderated unhobbled governments simply "morph" towards tyranny.. it's a universal truth
     
  20. Blue Devil PA

    Blue Devil PA Boise Active Member

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    Your answers might go something like this:
    I am sorry officer, but I legally sold my guns to another citizen.
    No, I did not keep a sales record.
    No, you may not enter my home without a warrant.
    Thank you and have a good day [close door].