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Laws between states are not even the same .
In Oregon you can make a u- turn only if a sign is posted that it is allowed.
In California, you can make a u-turn at an intersection unless there is a sign that says you are not allowed .

When I see people break this law in Oregon I just assume " Californian"
 
Thing is; its these kind of crosswalk signs with the bright flashing lights that you have to push button to turn onView attachment 1936318View attachment 1936320

And drivers still won't yield or stop for people within the crosswalk :eek:
Here in potland those crossings are frequently malfunctioning and flashing constant. Totally fitting don't you think? Seems pretty GD important that those crossings work 100% considering sub par driving skills of potlanders.
 
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Silver Streak is a classic older movie with Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder. Pryor plays the part of a cocky car thief who gets mixed up in espionage after stealing a Jaguar. That "nerve and touch" line was one of the classic lines in the show, along with lighting up a cigar at the end while sitting at the police department. The cops are grateful for his help in capturing the bad guys and want to do him a solid in return. Pryor tells them, "Well, I left my Jag in Kansas City..." hoping they will take him to it (omitting the part that it's not really his - it's stolen). Honestly, it may be hard to find that movie to watch these days. There was liberal use of the n-word.

Before he burned himself badly doing drugs, I thought Richard Pryor was the funniest man alive.
 
Here in potland those crossings are frequently malfunctioning and flashing constant. Totally fitting don't you think? Seems pretty GD important that those crossings work 100% considering sub par dri ing skills of potlanders.
So maybe the cities should go and hire living, breathing crossing guards? :s0140: or at least get them from ODOT :s0064:
 
So nobody at any stop sign ever gets to move? Because anyone at any time COULD yield the right of way. He with the most lead in his foot wins?
No. The second sentence is patently false, rendering the rest a perfect example of facetiousness (or to grant credit, perhaps that was the point).

Anyone with enough driving experience to have had accident with no option to prevent it (or numerous "close calls" with no option to prevent) will learn this. :cool:
 
No. The second sentence is patently false, rendering the rest a perfect example of facetiousness (or to grant credit, perhaps that was the point).

Anyone with enough driving experience to have had accident with no option to prevent it (or numerous "close calls" with no option to prevent) will learn this. :cool:
The second sentence is not false because everybody is stopped. So anybody can yield. Nobody is moving, nobody crashes and nobody is moving because everybody yielded. And everybody yielded because everybody can and therefore must, apparently. Sounds like a bad law.
 
Passing on the right seems to be the Washington State Sport as well.
Funny how up here everyone singles out the vehicles with Oregon plates as aggressively bad drivers (especially young guys in a big black Ram or lifted white F-150). But having driven a lot throughout Oregon and Idaho, I don't think one can award Washington the honor of the PNW state with the worst drivers...

I think Gig Harbor was the city that started the roundabout frivolity up here, and in the last twenty-something years, the wealthy (and mostly older) denizens of that fine community still haven't learned how to property enter and exit any of its roundabouts. Woman entered the roundabout while I was in it, sideswiped my truck with her Mercedes, she immediately got out (after we'd both exited) of her car, dialed 911, told the responding officer that I was at fault, screamed at me that she was gonna miss her hair appointment. Why I am a believer in dashcams.

Back on topic, I have noticed that fewer and fewer motorists these days comprehend how the four-way stop works. It's even funnier when a stoplight goes out after a power outage, watching everyone try to figure out how to proceed through the intersection. No, there's little in the way of courtesy displayed on the roads anymore, but to me, a lot of it is simple ignorance, people who've never learned basic traffic rules. Gonna be interesting to see how bad it gets when we start the widespread issuing of driver licenses to the illegal aliens, er, undocumented migrants.
 
I don't think one can award Washington the honor of the PNW state with the worst drivers...
I don't live anywhere near Washington, so I probably don't see as many Washington drivers as some. In my experience, I don't see a lot of difference between the Washington and Oregon drivers in my neck of the woods. Californians, now that's a different story. They tend to fly down the straightaways so you can't possibly pass them, then slow waaaaay down on the corners. Annoying. LOL Broad brush, I know. :p
 
Californians, now that's a different story. They tend to fly down the straightaways so you can't possibly pass them, then slow waaaaay down on the corners. Annoying. LOL Broad brush, I know
We own property in San Diego County -- whenever I go down there, the first couple of days I'm totally freaked out when I'm on the interstate, the back roads or the city main arterials. SoCal is just frickin' nuts these days. You can't paint Californians with too broad a brush. ;) Half of 'em probably never took driver ed and don't have valid licenses or insurance anyway. I come back up here and don't complain about the way people drive for at least a week or so...
 
Yielding to the first arrival at the intersection is Courtesy. (NOT the legal Right of Way for obvious reasons: No judge wants to preside over a dispute of who got there first).
That makes sense of why who arrived at the intersection first would not matter. If an accident were to occur, it could frequently result in both parties claiming to have been the first to arrive and how would a judge resolve it?
 

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