Traffic courtesy

[Indy62]

My recollection was also that the person going straight has the right of way. I guess because if you were both going straight, you could go at the same time. But man, when I've been sitting and sitting longer than the other guy, I only concede that right of way to him for the shortest time (nanoseconds) before I'm going for it. I've been flipped off before, no biggie.

Yeah..I think technically..legally..he had the right of way. At least from what I can decipher of the ODOT code. But from a courteous driver point of view, he should have let me go first. I would have.

Oh well..maybe next time he'll be more courteous. Or next time I'll let him go first..then flip HIM off.

 

[teflon6string]

Oregon Department of Transportation : Oregon Driver Manual - Turns & Intersections : Oregon Driver & Motor Vehicle Services : State of Oregon

www.oregon.gov

"At intersections with stop signs in all four directions, it is common courtesy to allow the driver who stops first to go first. When in doubt, yield to the driver on your right. Never assume another driver will yield the right of way to you."

"At intersections with two-way stop signs across from each other, the driver turning left should yield the right of way to approaching or oncoming traffic going straight."

What's this "common courtesy" thing to which they refer?

 

[P7M13]

Did not bother reading all the responses.
You were turning -- he had right of way.
You assumed his courtesy, which he did not grant.
Perhaps you will thicken your hide.

He wants to go straight
I turned left in front of him
Sucker! I went first.

 

[Indy62]

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[Bobbygun]

What's this "common courtesy" thing to which they refer?

I've told this story once before on the forum, about giving my son a lesson in driving courtesy:

I was driving down the street when a car pulls right out in front of me, not quite to the point I had to lock up the tires to keep from hitting him, but pretty close. My son in the passenger seat never said a word. After we had gone another 100 yards or so I asked him, "Are you proud of me for not flipping the guy off or laying on the horn?" His response, "Well, technically you were the one who ran the red light."

 

[Knobgoblin]

You're supposed to both wave at each other to go until both of you miss the opportunity to go.

No idea about Oregon but in most states you typically yield to the traffic going straight. This allows both of you to go since you can both enter the intersection at the same time and you can turn behind the other driver.

Canadian rules.
Tres' chic.

 

[Catfishmoon]

My understanding, in the situation you describe, is the person going straight ahead has the legal right of way. Regardless of how much earlier the person desiring to make a left turn arrived at the intersection.
I am now curious how the law actually reads...
I had been noticing a lot of vehicles (including large ones) making u-turns on roads of all sizes, including state highways of four lanes during the last year. I was quite certain these were illegal turn-arounds, but research indicates that most of them are legal under Washington State law.

Good job on drawing the diagram replicating the intersection.

 

[Indy62]

Ok..I was in the wrong..legally. I should have waited for the d-bag to go first. I admit it..I was in the wrong. Lesson learned.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Ok..I was in the wrong..legally. I should have waited for the d-bag to go first. I admit it..I was in the wrong. Lesson learned.

It's almost impossible to pull this off every time, but the "UPS left" has gotten me around crappy intersections before.

 

[Indy62]

It's almost impossible to pull this off every time, but the "UPS left" has gotten me around crappy intersections before.

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Funny you mention that. I generally plan my driving by using right turns..it's always been a point of disagreement with my wife (she always turns left whenever). But in the situation above, I took the opportunity because the opposing traffic was usually never there.

I'll go back to turning right.

 

[jbett98]

If they can teach dogs to drive, I would think that there's some hope for humans to learn how to.

View: https://youtu.be/BWAK0J8Uhzk

 

[hongkong2]

Turn Signals...
Never use 'em.
Ain't none of yer damn business where I am going....
( kidding here )
Andy

You must drive a BMW!

 

[Andy54Hawken]

You must drive a BMW!

Ha....nope.
2011 Red Chevy Silverado.
Andy

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• Andy54Hawken
• Nov 6, 2019

 

[Catfishmoon]

It's almost impossible to pull this off every time, but the "UPS left" has gotten me around crappy intersections before.

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That is good advice, especially in heavy traffic.

 

[kmk1012]

Yeah go F yourself.

Please edit your post to be excellent to each other. You didn't yield to the person with the right of way. Just swallow the fact that you got called out by someone with a middle finger and are having a hard time with it. Could I venture to guess that you are not married? Being married assists in learning to admit fault, even when it's really not on you

 

[oremike]

Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do.
Down here we have a plethora of passive/ aggressive drivers where at a 4 way stop will wave you to go first then move forward when you do causing you to stop then wave you forward, wash rinse and repeat.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Please edit your post to be excellent to each other. You didn't yield to the person with the right of way. Just swallow the fact that you got called out by someone with a middle finger and are having a hard time with it. Could I venture to guess that you are not married? Being married assists in learning to admit fault, even when it's really not on you

There must be a huge difference in the marriage playbook you got issued.
My wife and I rarely ever cede the hill in question, regardless of casualties. And neither of us has admitted to being wrong since the rings went on.

 

[Horn Ridge]

There's a 4 way stop locally that absolutely blows the college kids minds! It's the bright spot in my day sometimes just to make a run through there and give them a wave then stop, go, stop, wave and finally just hammer on it

 

[P7M13]

If they can teach dogs to drive, I would think that there's some hope for humans to learn how to.

View: https://youtu.be/BWAK0J8Uhzk

LOL, reminds me of the hoax book, Why Cats Paint.

There must be a huge difference in the marriage playbook you got issued.
My wife and I rarely ever cede the hill in question, regardless of casualties. And neither of us has admitted to being wrong since the rings went on.

Reminds me of my mother's parents. Irish, heavy drinkers, prone to fisticuffs on the front lawn. Lore has it that grandma knocked out grandpa a few times.

 

[kmk1012]

There must be a huge difference in the marriage playbook you got issued.
My wife and I rarely ever cede the hill in question, regardless of casualties. And neither of us has admitted to being wrong since the rings went on.

I am envious!