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Darn I wish you could have got the pre-1968 question in. About all they could have said is we'll look in to it.I attended as well. Thanks tiggers97 for posting this, because otherwise I wouldn't have known about it. This was my first time at a town hall-style meeting. While I'm sure the format changes between them, here's a quick description of how this particular event was set up:
There were chairs set up in rows in a small auditorium and a table with Sen. Burdick and Sen. Wagner up front. There was maybe 30 people there. At the door when I walked in, there was a table set up that had some sign-in sheets (name/address, reason for being there- I put SB978, but other people put simply "to listen". none of this seemed to be required in any way.). There were slips of paper on the table on which you could write a question and give it to one of the staffers. I showed up late, and the senators were already talking about other legistlation/issues non-related to guns. The staffers were picking questions out of the pile of slips and asking the senators. I don't know how they were deciding which questions to ask, though I did see them shuffling through the piles. It might have been in the order that they were submitted. My question (related to pre-1968 guns) didn't make it, but I was one of the last people to show up. They wrapped up questions around 3PM, thanks everyone for attending, etc. I didn't stick around, so I don't know if the senators stayed around for individual conversations.
Only one question that I was present for was related to guns- "Why do you think gun free zones work?". The answer was nonsense, but not unexpected. Senator Burdick did take some time to pontificate, saying that people were walking the halls of the Capitol with AR15s, and that people should be able to set their own rules for what makes them "feel safe" when at work (regarding the CHL provisions in 978). There was a little bit of noise made when Sen. Burdick was called out to describe any actual incidents that CHL holders had caused, but any anti-978 sentiment was shutdown with calls of "we don't feel safe!" and a bunch of people clapping. That brief minute or two was the only time the meeting got somewhat heated... the rest of the time was uneventfully spent talking about judicial reform, housing reform, election reform, etc.
All-in-all, and I hate to say this, it was really discouraging. I've never been looked at and talked about as "the bad guy" before, and it doesn't feel good. I don't know what I expected. It certainly wasn't some outright acceptance of "yeah, these people have some good points", but I at least hoped there'd be some kind of discourse instead of just yelling over us and refusing to listen at all. I like to think that I'm well-spoken, polite, and even somewhat capable of writing complete sentences, but Sen. Burdick hasn't answered (not even a canned reply) any emails or letters that I've sent her. I have no voice at all in our state government.
This won't stop me from going to events like this in the future though and from trying to get more people to come along.
Strip searchedWas there a metal detector in use, or any other way to determine if someone was carrying?
No. The auditorium was completely open, you could come and go as you please. There was a cop car parked out front when I first arrived, but I didn't see any police inside the building.Was there a metal detector in use, or any other way to determine if someone was carrying?
How safe do they feel when something bad happens? Do they (especially Portland) want more police or fewer police? Since the answer is more, they should actually feel safer with armed citizens veted by the state.they key word there is Feel...its all how they feel.. It will not matter if they are safer without the gun free zones.
I don't know if they actually do want more. If I recall correctly, there has been a recent push to disarm the police in Portland, and the City Council sure isn't doing anything to make these guys feel any sort of appreciated.How safe do they feel when something bad happens? Do they (especially Portland) want more police or fewer police? Since the answer is more, they should actually feel safer with armed citizens veted by the state.
I wish there was a way to make liberals prove their claims, whether it be how dangerous 30 caliber clips are or gun free zones are safe.
Probably end up like a previous one and she will be a no show cause something came up except the video of her taking out her garbage at home kinda ruined that excuse .....maybe.
they key word there is Feel...its all how they feel.. It will not matter if they are safer without the gun free zones.
But the thing is they are quite privileged and pampered, and used to relying on someone else for everything they need. They are the wealthy former public employee class with gardeners and maids. They fit the image described here:If they could focus on their own personal protection responsibilities, rather then relying on law enforcement to always be there when needed, then they would get it.
I don't know if they actually do want more. If I recall correctly, there has been a recent push to disarm the police in Portland, and the City Council sure isn't doing anything to make these guys feel any sort of appreciated.