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Hear you and agree on the suffering, but that makes it a little hard to eat the best part. Lung shots have worked just fine for me for the last 20 years. And 80 yds? So it didn't suffer more than a second or two? That's acceptable, isn't it?Never want to make an animal suffer, heart shot brings them right down and they don't walk off just wounded.
Probably true but I can't remember the last time I heard of someone buying a new one.I'd bet the 30-30 Win has dropped more game than those three put together.
Probably true but I can't remember the last time I heard of someone buying a new one.
As nice as they are, lever 30-30's are being replaced by other calibers.
To stay on the original topic so I don't get reprimanded: I think anyone who takes the word of the counter man as gospel, without a second and third opinion, gets what he deserves if he decides to hunt small game with a .458.
Dual wielding while deer hunting. i love it.Last deer I shot I took with an AR-15. I was carrying an 7MM mag but at the 75 or so feet between me and him I just couldn't see accepting that carnage. A .223 behind his ear was more than effective. A little four point. With a little more experience I would always choose a smaller cartridge. .270 Win being the largest for deer. Course I have not been hunting in 25 years and have no interest in taking game for food unless I had to to eat. Anyone that tells you you "have" to have a certain cartridge or one is the "best" is just showing their ignorance. Usually the best cartridge ends up being the one you have the most experience shooting. I suppose in some ways I am a "do nothing" too. I talk about guns far more than I shoot, I no longer hunt but still have an opinion. I spend a lot of time working on and playing with firearms but have probably shot less than 600 rounds in the last year. There was a time I was shooting 1000 rounds a week but I doubt I will ever be in a position to do that again. I'm ok with being a do nothing I guess ;-)
The 3006 will do 3000fps easy with a 150ge bullet. Do it all the time. It will do 2800fps with a 180gr bullet. The 308 wont.
Dual wielding while deer hunting. i love it.
i was contemplating taking my AR this weekend. now im convinced.Honestly I figured there was a far greater chance to plink than there was to hunt. I was probably less than 300 yards away from the truck busting though brush making all the noise in the world not even looking where I was going. Raised my head and there he was. I looked at him through the scope on the 7MM Mag and thought "This is insane" and popped him with the AR. This was in the Shoshone Basin in Southern Idaho. High desert and not far from home. I really did not plan on filling the tag that day.
Western oregon deer hunt and walked up on a clearing to see a nice buck. First time I hunted with the 94 win 30 30 but used 150 grain flat point. Deer broadside at about 40 yards and I shot at the heart lung area just. First shot the deer just shuddered then took a step so lever in another round and shot again only to watch the deer run off.
Tracked it about eighty yards into the brush and found it dead with both bullet holes about an inch apart. Never had any other caliber not bring the deer down right away. Shot bigger deer in eastern oregon and the 308 and 270 anchor them immediately.
For sure. A lot of the people working in such positions are working there because of their interest in hunting/shooting sports. As such, they may actually know a thing or two. But if you don't know the guy behind the counter, and most don't, then get a second+ opinion before blindly following his advice, yes? And if you fail to do your homework, you deserve the lessons learned in "The School of Hard Knocks".Depends on the man behind the counter, not all of them are hired help. Some have really been there and know what they are talking about. However you have to find that out over time and in today's drive through get it my way culture most don't take the time. So of course they put minimum wage guys at the counter because so many think buying guns is like buying a burger.