Talk Me Into or Out Of NFA Toys

RedneckRampage · Aug 30, 2015

For as long as I can remember, I've wanted an SBR and a SBS. I guess the idea of more paperwork, and not being able to travel state to state as freely has kept me from ever getting into NFA stuff.

I now have my 870P and Colt LE carbine all set up how I want them, except they still seem too long (18" and 16").

I'm hoping you guys can talk me into going through with filing, or talk me out of it!

The 870P would get a 14" rifle sight barrel, the Colt would get a 10.5" barrel.

ZA_Survivalist · Aug 30, 2015

Its neat to think about and play with.
I guess having at least 1 SBS and/or 1 SBR is always a good experiance as well as owning a surpressor (have yet to get a can myself)

If I was going to do an SBS I would make it a SXS double barrel

which I may still go for, the 14" and less pump actions never made sense to me like the serbus?*

I am playing with the idea of an AR15 SBR.. But the SBR pistols these days are fun enough to warrant skipping the hassle of the tax stamp.

For me, my SBR makes me a little paranoid, do I have my paper work? should I even bring it when I go out?.. Etc.

Id opt for an SBR before Id do an SBS, but then again Im more of a rifle guy. Looking forward to see what path you take and what you're new toy is

BlindedByScience · Aug 30, 2015

I know a lot of guys really dig them, but this article pretty much talked me out of building an SBR in .223:

http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=1093

I'll go with a 14.5" and pin / weld a suppressor adapter on the end to meet the legal minimum. Nothing shorter. JMHO......

Sgt Nambu · Aug 30, 2015

I have no interest in SBR's, etc. I mean, it's a rifle, it's supposed to hit stuff waayyyy out there!

Now a can is a different story altogether! I'd love to get one for my S&W 622 .22LR pistol! A gun I bought about 15-20yrs ago that happens to be threaded, by way of the barrel attaching nut. The adapter nut is under $20. Sigh......wish I was rich instead of so danged purdy!

BlindedByScience · Aug 30, 2015

Sgt Nambu said:
I have no interest in SBR's, etc. I mean, it's a rifle, it's supposed to hit stuff waayyyy out there!

Now a can is a different story altogether! I'd love to get one for my S&W 622 .22LR pistol! A gun I bought about 15-20yrs ago that happens to be threaded, by way of the barrel attaching nut. The adapter nut is under $20. Sigh......wish I was rich instead of so danged purdy!

....you'll notice I didn't try to talk him out of NFA, just SBR's......

I have a Sparrow in .22 and it's quite happy on my Ruger's; a MKIII and a 10-22.....really fun to shoot.

The B · Aug 30, 2015

Absolutely love short ARs. You can reach out as far as you want, with modern loads and correct barrel length selection. 14.5" will get you out to anything you can hit without magnification, even if you're a crack shot.. and a 10.5" with a good partition tip will expand up to 200m. If you need to reach out farther than that, you'll be using a totally different weapon anyway.

Yes.... SBR away, bro. You'll regret many things you do in this life, but I've never, ever heard anyone say "boy I sure wish I'd never SBR'd."

Caveman Jim · Aug 30, 2015

If I could afford them I would!!!!

Just Jim · Aug 30, 2015

Why shouldn't you own what you want to? You only have one life and things bring enjoyment to that life.

Sgt Nambu · Aug 30, 2015

^^^^ LOL!!! Old age, disability, retired, fixed income, 135# dog that enjoys eating, fuel, taxes, children and grandchildren, ammunition, a

new 55" smart TV

and I enjoy eating too!

RedneckRampage · Aug 31, 2015

One more question. If I am traveling out of state with an SBR, can I put a 16" upper in it and treat it as any other rifle?

ch139 · Sep 1, 2015

Just Jim said:
Why shouldn't you own what you want to? You only have one life and things bring enjoyment to that life.

This!

If this is something you want to do, just get it done. Its not a big deal to get it done and can be a lot of fun.

SCARed · Sep 1, 2015

RedneckRampage said:
One more question. If I am traveling out of state with an SBR, can I put a 16" upper in it and treat it as any other rifle?

Yes.
If you put a 16" upper on it, you can sell it like any other rifle as well.

coyote223 · Sep 2, 2015

Shooting without a suppressor is uncivilized,,,

The B · Sep 2, 2015

Suppressor are too heavy

jbett98 · Sep 2, 2015

Deafness is forever.

Member 34319 · Sep 2, 2015

My biggest gripe originally was the hassle of dealing with the paperwork.

Then I went for it. Got a trust made through coyote rifle works and efiled everything. Turned out easier than I thought. Hardest part was notarizing the trust.

If I had one con, it would be that your now officially on some list with the guberment.

Stomper · Sep 2, 2015

DO IT!

Dismissed, carry on.

wired · Sep 4, 2015

10.5" SBR's in 5.56 work just fine. Load your own and you can tailor it to do whatever you want. Ive found 21 grains of IMR 4198 with a 55 grain bullet cycles 100% of the time and still has 2400+ FPS and keeps to sub MOA.

Better yer use a 10.5" or shorter barrel with 300 BLK. It's optimized for a 10" barrel and you can run a 110 grain bullet to 2400 or a 240 grain bullet to 1000 FPS with a silencer.

Its a simple process to do the NFA paperwork especially since they put form 1's online. You can even use your credit card and get rewards points.