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this is the guy you are giving you money to... heres a post from the owner

James replied this on ar15.com about the price gouging:

"yes, I still own all three. But like the 22's .it is all for sale. I buy most all the Ammo. I decide if it goes into the stores or not. I set the pricing. I do not bring the 22's into the stores. Hoping not to enrage customers knowing people will pay more around the country. I do not owe anybody anything. If you think you can set the price of my products. Then bring your guns and ammo in to one of my stores. Then I will place a price on your goods. (Not caring what you paid or what is worth to you.) and you will sell it. No person has the right to tell me what I can sell my wares for. If you think that my business owes you something, you are deranged. It is unlikely I will post again. I rarley go onto any gun forums. It is mostly the same crap. I use to pay $400 per month to be an "industry partner" but no more. I have over 30 pallets of ammo in my warehouse.I paid too much fo it. At the time it seemed like a good deal, but I was wrong. Do you see me writing a thread about I can not sell the product for %90 of cost. No, you win some you lose some. One of my employees thought that Draco pistols for $850 cost was a good deal. So good in fact he bought 20. Not with his $ but mine. I think we sold most of them between $450-$550. How many thousands did I lose on that deal?. Did I write a thread? Did I fire him? No, I lost $. Was not the 1st time. Will not be the last. To all my loyal customers Thanks. I have worked hard for many years to bring quality products at fair prices. Most of the time I can beat Walmart prices. The market is very strong on 22's right now. I sell it at market prices. Chester is right. I would lower the price if people would stop buying it. They have not. I just sold most of my 22's to Ruger. I knew there was a shortage of 22's. But when Ruger placed an order and bought all we had in stock at our retail price. (I did take of 2% since they wrote a check) that really put the 22 market in perspective. To those of you lashing out at me. Well, sorry I disappoint you. Guys open gun stores all the time. They take 1, 2, $300,000.00 or more and turn it into less. The water is warm, jump on in. I have been in this game a while. I will leave on my terms. Despite how many 100's or thousands of negative threads. I believe like it Hollywood, there is no bad publicity. Thanks, God Bless. Go Hawks!
 
During the crazy days I realized that Surplus Ammo are jokers. I've stopped giving them any business along with the other places that raise prices because they can. Limiting ammo purchases I am ok with. Gouging I'm not. They can do what the want but not with my dimes.
 
They only sell quality,in my experience

Sorry,the Rainier Arms add must have popped into view as I read the OP.
Surplus is OK,the guy raises his prices at the shows and says it's another section of the company,so the prices will vary....only that entity uses HIS name,so Idunno.
They did pull a Cheaper than Diamonds and raise their prices after the sandy hook BS.

So I would definitely go to Rainier Arms for an upper before Surplus.....
They only sell quality,in my experience
 
Rainier Arms is where it's at!

Great guys there with great customer service, and they are a local PNW business in Auburn, WA right off of Auburn Way.

Bought my stripped lower in person from them :)
 
SAA is ok... from what I've seen of their uppers they look like they're all put together from random DPMS parts, not exactly the mark of quality. If you just want a cheap upper, call del-ton (who makes good, but budget stuff), if you want a high quality upper, stag is hard to beat.

Generally, I don't get too excited about gun shops (even big ones) buying parts and assembling guns. Unless you're dealing with something where the shop gunsmith does one-off hyper-gucci show pieces, you're usually getting parts bought for bottom dollar and sold for the highest price they will catch.

Buying an upper from a manufacturer, where all the parts are assembled there, tested there, and then shipped out is a better bet than buying guns assembled in a broom closet. I could be wrong, but I've never seen parking tanks, CNC equipment, or even a test-firing range (guns should be proofed before being sold) at SAA.

I'm not saying SAA is bad... I'm just saying they are a decent retailer, but they seem to be far from a manufacturer. I still stop in every time I'm in the area, I find their selection of ammo and accessories to be really what I'm looking for most of the time.
 

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