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Superior Court Seals Records on F&F and BP Agent Terry's Murder!

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by A.I.P., Nov 30, 2011.

  1. A.I.P.

    A.I.P. UpperUS Active Member

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    S. Seals Court Records Of Border Patrol’s Murder
    ViewDiscussion.Last Updated: Wed, 11/30/2011 - 4:15pm
    The Obama Administration has abruptly sealed court records containing alarming details of how Mexican drug smugglers murdered a U.S. Border patrol agent with a gun connected to a failed federal experiment that allowed firearms to be smuggled into Mexico.

    This means information will now be kept from the public as well as the media. Could this be a cover-up on the part of the “most transparent” administration in history? After all, the rifle used to kill the federal agent (Brian Terry) last December in Arizona’s Peck Canyon was part of the now infamous Operation Fast and Furious. Conducted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), the disastrous scheme allowed guns to be smuggled into Mexico so they could eventually be traced to drug cartels.Instead, federal law enforcement officers lost track of more than 1,000 guns which have been used in numerous crimes. In Terry’s case, five illegal immigrants armed with at least two semi-automatic assault rifles were hunting for U.S. Border Patrol agents near a desert watering hole just north of the Arizona-Mexico border when a firefight erupted and Terry got hit.

    We know this only because Washington D.C.’s conservative newspaper , the Washington Times, got ahold of the court documents before the government suddenly made them off limits. The now-sealed federal grand jury indictment tells the frightening story of how Terry was gunned down by Mexican drug smugglers patrolling the rugged desert with the intent to “intentionally and forcibly assault” Border Patrol agents.

    You can see why the administration wants to keep this information from the public and the media, considering the smugglers were essentially armed by the U.S. government. Truth is, no one will know the reason for the confiscation of public court records in this case because the judge’s decision to seal it was also sealed, according to the news story. That means the public or media won’t have access to any new or old evidence, filings, rulings or arguments.

    A number of high-ranking Border Patrol officials are questioning how the case is being handled. For instance, they wonder why the defendant (Manuel Osorio-Arellanes) hasn’t been tried even though it’s been almost a year since Terry’s murder. They also have concerns about the lack of transparency in the investigation, not to mention the recent sealing of the court case.

    Osorio-Arellanes is charged with second-degree murder. The four other drug smugglers fled the scene and their names were blacked out in the indictment. In 2006 Osorio-Arellanes had been convicted in Phoenix of felony aggravated assault and in 2010 he was twice detained for being in the U.S. illegally.

    During a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing this month to address the flawed gun-tracking program, Attorney General Eric Holder said it’s not fair to assume that mistakes in Operation Fast and Furious led to Terry’s death. Holder also expressed regret to the federal agent’s family, saying that he can only imagine their pain.
     
  2. A.I.P.

    A.I.P. UpperUS Active Member

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    I'm Mortified at the Thugocracy that passes for elected goverment in America
     
  3. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    So now the cover up includes the Judicial branch too!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Guess they're getting too close to the truth and the administration is afraid of it!
     
  4. 22many

    22many PNW Well-Known Member

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    This really doesn't surprise me. Any big corporation, government or not, seems to get away with things that us "little" people couldn't.
     
  5. Shooter11b

    Shooter11b Enumclaw, Washington, United States Tactical Bushcrafter

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    Thank God for the Second Amendment. We may need it sooner than later the way things are going and THAT my friends SUCKS.
     
  6. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Wonder how much this will hinder the Grassley investigation?
     
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  7. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    I hope you dopes that voted for these schmucks don't repeat your mistake next election.

    :banghead:
     
  8. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    You thought that they weren't involved in corruption?
     
  9. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Its sickening to see what my country is turning into. I wish the good people in Our government would stand up.
     
  10. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    I doubt there are any left.
     
  11. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't look good I can tell ya that.
     
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    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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  13. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks they shouldn't be able to use phrases like "distinguished", "honorable", "gentleman", or "lady" to describe themselves or their colleagues.
     
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  14. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    What possibly could they use to justify sealing these records???
    This was not some civil trial where the parties wanted it private.
    It is also not a case where they can claim national security.
    I will bet you that there will be some news organization that will take this through the courts and it will get unsealed.
     
  15. 22many

    22many PNW Well-Known Member

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    Ah thats a easy one. The government screwed up and they don't want the people of the US to know anymore than they already do. Seal it, bury it, and turn a blind eye to it.
     
  16. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Oh yah, I'll bet MSN will jump right on it!!
     
  17. slingshot1943

    slingshot1943 salem or Well-Known Member

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    Every lefty who keeps supporting these thugs is complicit.
     
  18. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot Clack Co. OR Well-Known Member

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    The Sinaloa cartel is at war with the Zetas over drug running territory. The Federales are either fighting or working for the cartels depending on who's bribes are better on that particular day. Our Government decided to arm the Sinaloas against the Zetas and get information on them at the same time. Looks like one of the Feds informants was told to go Border Patrolman hunting and Brian Terry was killed.

    The Feds are covering this up because:

    They hope to protect the informants working within the cartels. Legitimate reason except the whole operation was stupid. I'll bet the cartels were three steps ahead of them the whole time.

    For domestic political reasons:

    Their weapons were used to kill Brian Terry, hundreds of Mexican citizens and used in high profile kidnappings.
    They armed enemies of the US.
    They armed terrorists in another country who are fighting their government, an act of war.
    They got caught using this operation as an excuse to increase gun regulations.
    It's election season.
     
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  19. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    I have not even considered any of that, but you could very well be 100% correct. It sure does seem plausible.
    Seems like we need a special prosecutor to investigate this matter. More than likely Holder should be going to jail, but that will never happen of course.
    Even if he's at the top of all this, he would just get a presidential pardon.

    ... I really think that the power of pardon should be stripped away from the president. We have seen it abused too many times:
     
  20. Bigfoot

    Bigfoot Clack Co. OR Well-Known Member

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