Suarez International Patrol Class

[SmawGunner]

I just got back from this class. It was awesome!
HRO Patrolling Montana!!!!!!

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[Misterbill]

So, from the pics, you're all training (for a week) for the day the UN-One-World-Govt, Illuminati takes over and you all head for the hills to take up Basic Infantry courses against the infantry that trains for that eventuality 24/7/365?

Wow, impressive. -For anyone that wasn't an 11/B or the same smell in other services.

 

[SmawGunner]

misterbill. when i was in the infantry i would have disobeyed orders to attack my fellow americans. the constitution requires me to disobey those orders. everyone in my platoon felt the same way. i am sure this is still a common opinion today so i am not worried about that scenario. so to answer your question. i took that class because it was fun. alot more fun than playing golf!

 

[Brutus57]

Both in ROTC and at Aviation Officer Candidate school we spent a good bit of time on the UCMJ. So we would understand as officers NJP article 15s and especially "unlawful orders" and firing upon American citizens and strafing/purposely bombing civilians fell in to that category at that time. I certainly hope in the next few years that the blue helmets don't become our version of the 21st century Hessians of the War of independence 239 odd years ago. Hopefully our young men and women in the majority will say Eff it I ain't pulling the trigger. And I don't care if some officers get fragged for ordering such an outrageous thing. I never would have given such an obviously illegal and immoral order. But then I never would have thought we'd be this far down the road to a police state in 2013 either.

Brutus out

 

[Brutus57]

So, from the pics, you're all training (for a week) for the day the UN-One-World-Govt, Illuminati takes over and you all head for the hills to take up Basic Infantry courses against the infantry that trains for that eventuality 24/7/365?

Wow, impressive. -For anyone that wasn't an 11/B or the same smell in other services.

Hopefully for all the volunteers if SHTF there will be some 11Bravos to show them enough to blunt the threat. Yes, they have overwhelming fire superiority, technology, etc, etc. but throughout history determined men and women have beaten such odds. To me, any training is better than nothing. Cadres of combat vets will be helpful to train eager but green civilians. Morale is big time. If enough folks are willing to risk their lives then time and terrain are on the side of the rebels. Hopefully this will all be just a bunch of conceptualization and things will be back on the right side of the road in a few years. Plus name me a single nationality of blue hats whose government keeps sending them in to get decimated by the local bad guys the UN is trying to subdue. I can't name too many. I for one hope its not Turks or Roks that come knocking to enforce the un treaty.

Brutus out

 

[beavernation]

All the guns and gear we endlessly debate, trade, upgrade....etc....are just tools. Without good quality training to go with them we are just kidding ourselves if we think we can use them to hold off "the golden horde"! Good for you Smaw, I have taken a couple courses from Suarez Int. myself and they know how to train warriors like nobody else does!!!.......

 

[Brutus57]

The real beauty is if the US economy tanks there isn't enough money in the UN to support major and sustained operations over here IMHO. Europe has their own cans of worms. When was the last time a truly socialist country invaded another? Communist autocracies, sure. 3rd world dictators, yup! I do believe in training. Likely scenario, perhaps. The Swiss are armed and trained and landlocked and no one has effed with them for centuries. and just maybe a few 1,000 trained citizens give some of dem gubment fellers a nightmare or two.

Brutus Out

 

[Norm0931]

So, from the pics, you're all training (for a week) for the day the UN-One-World-Govt, Illuminati takes over and you all head for the hills to take up Basic Infantry courses against the infantry that trains for that eventuality 24/7/365?

Wow, impressive. -For anyone that wasn't an 11/B or the same smell in other services.

Because the Afghanis have been doing such a horrible job of fighting us AND the Russians for like 30+ years. Obviously, you would lose automatically if the National Guard comes rolling down the street. Yeah, the few million combat vets that have left the military in the last 10 years would not stand a chance...

 

[timac]

SmawGunner, good to see you the spend time and money on training, many don't. There are some on this board that see this as a waste of effort for no reason. They've lost their sense of freedom, they prefer and want the chains of the collective, as they are enlightened. These enlightened ones are the Quislings who'll be pointing the fingers at Patriots, for their handlers.

 

[TapRackNGo]

Looks like a great time. Great pics.

 

[Kevinkris]

ive only looked at the classifications a few times but im pretty sure 11-b is infantry. now not to rag you you infantry guys (especially those who may have been drafted) but infantry recruits are the guys who barely passed the asvab; and it doesnt take much to get a 32. many of those people are dumb as bricks and took the MOS simply to get into the military. you cant count on stupid people to disobey stupid orders. dont forget that american soldiers have already fired on american citizens in the past, and even bombed american citizens recently.

now with that said, i have no doubt that we can count on the vast, overwhelming majority of our soldiers to keep us safe at all costs; even if they dont have a grasp on what mortality means, because at 17 or 18 none of us are mortal.

as far as the class, it looks like a blast and if i could afford it, i would be there. i can definitely see some practical skills coming from there but nothing that will do any good long term. in the heat of the (highly unlikely) moment, you may find yourself a leader in a bubblegumty situation though. some things stick right away but its not enough time to retain it all. helps having fun while you learn and im sure it was a great time.

 

[Certaindeaf]

.blue hats..

Dood, the obvious never dawned on me.. Antichrist is prophesied to be wearing a blue "hat".

 

[Steve06]

Does Suarez do any teaching? Or would that violate his Felony conviction?

 

[SmawGunner]

Does Suarez do any teaching? Or would that violate his Felony conviction?

Steve06 - If YOU had done ANY research on Gabe Suarez you would quickly find out these charges were all BS. Why do YOU bring this BS up? Whats your agenda? I spend my hard earned money and some of my limited vacation days on a once in a lifetime class and you feel the need to poo poo it? What axe do you have to grind? Gabe has done great things in our shooting world. He has moved us forward. Pushed the envelope. I have taken classes from him and I have learned a lot more from him than those ancient square range doctrine methods that will get me killed in real life. He is a great instructor and he also has some of the best instructors around. We would all be lucky to take classes from him or his instructors.

 

[Outrider]

Does Suarez do any teaching? Or would that violate his Felony conviction?

He did a plea deal at the misdemeanor level to avoid a felony conviction.

Steve06 - If YOU had done ANY research on Gabe Suarez you would quickly find out these charges were all BS.

Don't confuse his firearms knowledge and ability as an instructor with whether or not he was telling the truth. Gabe does know his guns but the charges against him were legitimate. He got caught and had to pay the price.

Former Officer Pleads Guilty to Fraud Charges

By Teresa Rochester

Sept. 27, 2001 -- A former Santa Monica police officer has pleaded guilty to Workers Compensation fraud, money laundering and grand theft and will begin serving a year-long jail sentence for the crimes next week.

Gabriel Saurez, a decorated 12-year veteran of the SMPD, will report to Los Angeles County Jail to begin serving his sentence on Monday as part of a plea agreement reached last week in Los Angeles County Criminal Court. Saurez, who recently resigned from the force, also was sentenced to five years probation.

Saurez, his wife Cheryl Saurez and Officer Jason Comer pleaded not guilty in April to charges of conspiracy, Workers Compensation fraud and grand theft. Saurez also faced two additional fraud charges.

Like her husband, Cheryl Saurez agreed to plea guilty during last Friday's hearing. She was ordered to serve one day in jail and also was sentenced to five years probation.

Comer's charges were dropped in June, and he remains on paid leave pending the conclusion of an administrative investigation, according to Police Chief James T. Butts Jr.

As part of the agreement, the charges of conspiracy against the Suarezes were dismissed, as were the two additional counts of Workers Compensation filed against Gabriel Saurez, said DA spokesperson Sandi Gibbons.

The Saurezes paid a $100 fine and $112, 250.01 in restitution on Friday, according to Deputy Dist. Atty. Ellen St. John.

Chief Butts said Saurez's plea was a testament to the "hard work, time and effort that the risk management and our criminal division officers have put into this case.

"The good thing is the City of Santa Monica has received full restitution for all wages that were paid in this fraudulent claim," Butts said. "The jail sentence that was imposed by the judge sent a strong message that this type of misconduct will not be tolerated by the City of Santa Monica,"

Gabriel Suarez allegedly worked as a gun tactics trainer while receiving Workers Compensation for a slip and fall accident in the SMPD's locker room in 1999. Cheryl Suarez allegedly received payments for work done by her husband through a company she never worked for. The dismissed charges against Comer were based on allegations that he received and disbursed money for Saurez.

The Saurez case stemmed from a long-term investigation of Workers Compensation fraud within the police department launched late last year by the department, the District Attorneys Office and the State Department of Insurance.

The investigation also has resulted in charges filed against Officer Richard Robert Brulato, who pleaded not guilty in June to two counts of Workers Compensation Fraud.

Butts said the investigation is "definitely ongoing.

"We have other cases we are actively looking at and investigating. Fortunately at this point those cases are few," said Butts adding that they would be vigorously pursued.

Gabe can say whatever he wants about the extent of his injuries and the bad legal advice he received but he knew what he was doing was not on the level. He had a workaround payment system where money went to his wife instead of him so it didn't look like he was working professionally as a trainer.

 

[timac]

Does Suarez do any teaching? Or would that violate his Felony conviction?