Space colonization concepts?

[NeoBlackdog]

I don't understand the fascination with colonizing other planets, or living in space.

Maybe the idea of distributed human diaspora if the earth is annihilated by a space object?

Won't help any of us.

Even if our environment were to collapse, even if we tried to nuke everyone, what's left is still more habitable than alien planets. You'd have population collapse, but many would survive.
All of the tech and resources required to sustain life on an alien planet could instead be used on a wrecked Earth, still a better option.

Seems like a fancy idea for rich people. Living in space or on Mars for a lifetime would SUCK.
(unless the space babes were hot)

I think you're taking a very short view of things, MIC.
Can you imagine how much better off our Earth would be if we could mine and refine all or most of our raw materials from the Moon or from the asteroid belt?

what's left is still more habitable than alien planets

How do you know that? Have you been out there and seen what's available in the vastness of the universe? The same thing that pushed men to cross oceans and continents, the drive to discover, is what drives us towards space. First towards the near planets and then further as our technology develops. Did you know that without our space program modern medicine and electronics would not exist? Those early programs have more than paid for themselves from a simply fiscal standpoint, not to mention the lives saved through what has been developed for modern medicine.
Here's an interesting article you might enjoy;

The Case for Human Space Exploration - New Space Economy

Human space exploration has always captivated the imagination of humanity, serving as both a symbol of ambition and a driver of innovation. While robotic missions are invaluable, the presence of humans in space exploration offers distinct advantages that cannot be replicated by machines. These...

newspaceeconomy.ca

 

[made in china]

Im not saying I'll make every attempt to impregnate a robot if they get advanced enough to looks good. I mean I did have a vasectomy and all but I would try real hard for science because Im a humanitarian . Its not like Id be cheating on my wife. Its a robot. Its like a hollowed out pumpkin and we all know what thats like. Halloween is my favorite time of the year. Not neighbors though.

Robot: "error, hard dic..I mean hard disk size insufficient"

 

[made in china]

I think you're taking a very short view of things, MIC.
Can you imagine how much better off our Earth would be if we could mine and refine all or most of our raw materials from the Moon or from the asteroid belt?

How do you know that? Have you been out there and seen what's available in the vastness of the universe? The same thing that pushed men to cross oceans and continents, the drive to discover, is what drives us towards space. First towards the near planets and then further as our technology develops. Did you know that without our space program modern medicine and electronics would not exist? Those early programs have more than paid for themselves from a simply fiscal standpoint, not to mention the lives saved through what has been developed for modern medicine.
Here's an interesting article you might enjoy;

The Case for Human Space Exploration - New Space Economy

Human space exploration has always captivated the imagination of humanity, serving as both a symbol of ambition and a driver of innovation. While robotic missions are invaluable, the presence of humans in space exploration offers distinct advantages that cannot be replicated by machines. These...

newspaceeconomy.ca

Regarding mining resources: where are the resources to be used? In space? Are they ever brought back to Earth? Anything brought back to Earth would be wildly expensive, and expending it on the planet would create waste that would need to be dealt with. Wait until the blue hairs find out our landfills are getting filled with space waste.

Keeping those resources in space for the entire life cycle, processing, extraction, manufacturing and eventually waste, sure.... fine.

As for inhabiting a different planet, I'm only thinking of our solar system. There's nowhere in our solar system that would be better than Earth, even if it was wrecked.
Entire populations could be lost on alien planets if everything didn't work correctly. If you can't walk freely on the planet, without life support, if the planet can't feed you, what's the point in going there?
AI will handle it? Why even send the humans? What happens when a human becomes too old out there? Send them back to Earth? Waste precious resources on them on an alien planet?

Just my opinions, you won't see me trying to stop rockets going into space.

 

[Capn Jack]

As long as there's big titted green women, I'm in

Personally I like the blue ones with the pointy ears.

 

[jbett98]

Back in the 70's, a lot of my friends, myself included, spent a lot of time in outer space.

 

[monkeybutler]

Personally I like the blue ones with the pointy ears.

No wonder Papa Smurf has been walking funny.

 

[Capn Jack]

Sorry Monkey, I don't want to play with you.

 

[CamoDeafie]

Regarding mining resources: where are the resources to be used? In space? Are they ever brought back to Earth? Anything brought back to Earth would be wildly expensive, and expending it on the planet would create waste that would need to be dealt with. Wait until the blue hairs find out our landfills are getting filled with space waste.

As opposed to depleting the Earth's resources to send stuff into space only for the stuff to burn in reentry?

Keeping those resources in space for the entire life cycle, processing, extraction, manufacturing and eventually waste, sure.... fine.

This is where I was thinking as well, particularly using robots and AI to start creating the eventual off world habitats for humanity

As for inhabiting a different planet, I'm only thinking of our solar system. There's nowhere in our solar system that would be better than Earth, even if it was wrecked.

I dunno, Mars is currently the hottest candidate for a second Earth; certainly much has been written, videoed, and hypothesized as to the suitability of Mars for terraforming and colonizing by humans

Entire populations could be lost on alien planets if everything didn't work correctly. If you can't walk freely on the planet, without life support, if the planet can't feed you, what's the point in going there?

Entire populations can and have been lost on Earth already; see genocides, ethnic cleansings, warfare and dilution of certain regions genetic diversity by invading settlers/colonizers. Going all the way back to the elimination of entire species of Humans (Neanderthals, Denisovans, etc) , leaving just us Homo Sapiens as the sole surviving Hominid species.
Habitats for humans could be as simple as enormous domed cities operating like greenhouses. Creating a breathable atmosphere is the challenge but I do think there's been research on generating a breathable gas from lunar resources, the challenge is to how to contain it (see domed habitats?). The bigger challenge is how lower gravity and lack of strong magnetic fields will mess with DNA.

AI will handle it? Why even send the humans? What happens when a human becomes too old out there? Send them back to Earth? Waste precious resources on them on an alien planet?

First generation of humans, then let them breed like the horny humans they are. Again, start with AI and robots developing the habitats

Just my opinions, you won't see me trying to stop rockets going into space.

Valid opinions, but mostly technologic, ethical, political hurdles and such.