Skeleton type stock for AR-15 carbine ...

[CountryGent]

So, I am looking for AR-15 carbine stock that is sort of like this:



It will attach to a carbine type tube:





It does not need a spring or buffer as it is attaching to a submachine-gun that has an AR-15 adapter.

Suggestions? Thanks!

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[MTpockets]

Picatinny Rail Adapter

Picatinny Rail Stock Adapter – Full Auto M10 – Practical Solutions

macmachineguns.com

Double Star and/or Other Cool Options

ACE Pic Rail AKFX Stock (SS) 7.5"

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doublestarusa.com

AR Tube
MDT SCS or others in the link.

https://mdttac.com/mdt-scs-lite-skeleton-carbine-stock-lite/

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Are you planning on using the carbine tube because the adaptor adds to the LOP? If so this one might be the ticket.

(ARFX-E) Gen 1 Skeleton Stock Entry Length With Buffer Tube and FDE Foam

(ARFX-E) Gen 1 Skeleton Stock Entry Length With Buffer Tube and FDE Foam

doublestarusa.com

 

[ilikegunspdx]

So, I am looking for AR-15 carbine stock that is sort of like this:

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It will attach to a carbine type tube:

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It does not need a spring or buffer as it is attaching to a submachine-gun that has an AR-15 adapter.

Suggestions? Thanks!

I would adapt it to picatinny/1913 rail. The sky is the limit for the type of stock you can use probably 100+ options.



These kind you can put wood inserts or cheek risers in which looks really cool Imo.

 

[CountryGent]

Thanks fellows, much appreciated. My understanding is the adapter I have only works with carbine type tubes, but I'm far from expert on AR parts. The stock from Double Star looks like exactly the ticket.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Thanks fellows, much appreciated. My understanding is the adapter I have only works with carbine type tubes, but I'm far from expert on AR parts. The stock from Double Star looks like exactly the ticket.

You can convert from ar to 1913 easily with an adapter but if that ends up being 2 adapters that may make length of pull too long. There are adapters for everything seems like. A few random examples.




Standard ar15 reciever to 1913 with jmac knockoff stock on a brn-180

Same stock with a picatinny to picatinny optics riser to increase length of pull 1.5"?ish.

You can also get custom wood ones made (this one is not mine)

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• ilikegunspdx
• Jul 21, 2022

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[Sporting Systems]

Thanks fellows, much appreciated. My understanding is the adapter I have only works with carbine type tubes, but I'm far from expert on AR parts. The stock from Double Star looks like exactly the ticket.

I have the Doublestar skeletoon stock on one of my own builds in 458 Socom. I wrapped the bars with paracord, which gave it a nice look, a little better grip and the utility of having a nice chunk of cord right there on the rifle.

 

[monkeybutler]

I can't think of anything that fits the bill exactly.

ACE does make a short version of that stock that is more 'carbiney' but it is too short unless you are an action hero in bulky body armor. or a midget.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

I can't think of anything that fits the bill exactly.

ACE does make a short version of that stock that is more 'carbiney' but it is too short unless you are an action hero in bulky body armor. or a midget.

Or you could get lucky like I did and find one of these and end up with an "in between" length

DPMS Stock Extender 1 AR-15 Aluminum Matte

An aluminum alloy extender inserts between the stock and the receiver adding 1" length to the stock. Can be used on A1 or A2 rifles. Anodized....

www.midwayusa.com

 

[monkeybutler]

Or you could get lucky like I did and find one of these and end up with an "in between" length

DPMS Stock Extender 1 AR-15 Aluminum Matte

An aluminum alloy extender inserts between the stock and the receiver adding 1" length to the stock. Can be used on A1 or A2 rifles. Anodized....

www.midwayusa.com

Yeah but still not quite the look/structure of the ace stock on a carbine buffer tube. The shorty ace looks like it goes on a short but round/smooth buffer tube, without the (whatever the downward portruding stuff on the underside of a carbine tube is called).

Don't mean to be a negative nellie here but not sure there is a perfect solution.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

Yeah but still not quite the look/structure of the ace stock on a carbine buffer tube. The shorty ace looks like it goes on a short but round/smooth buffer tube, without the (whatever the downward portruding stuff on the underside of a carbine tube is called).

Don't mean to be a negative nellie here but not sure there is a perfect solution.

Guess it depends on if the length or the features of the carbine stock are what's important

 

[monkeybutler]

Guess it depends on if the length or the features of the carbine stock are what's important

Yep.

I might try the complete ace stock kit, with the buffer tube and whatnot.

Or maybe a Magpul CTR which vaguely resembles the triangle shape of the ace stock And has the same utilitarian vibe.

 

[VinnieBoomBah]

My understanding is the adapter I have only works with carbine type tubes

The reason they specify the carbine tube is because of the way the AR buffer tubes are retained on an AR. For the rifle the threads are just long enough to screw in and capture the buffer retaining pin and there is a flange to keep it from going in too far. the stock is then screwed to the back of the tube and there is a nub on the front bottom of the stock to prevent everything from rotating, so you get basically a 3 point lock up. You can see the nub on the front of the ACE stock as well.
The carbine tubs can't be attached to the rear of the tube so the threads are longer and you use a castle nut to lock the tube to the receiver, and you would use that same way of locking up to attach it to the adaptor.

So you can use a rifle stock with any of the adaptors, the thread depth into the receiver is the same on both the the rifle and carbine, but the rifle tube wouldn't have the castle nut to lock it down. You could use Rockset to keep it in place or a screw run through the bottom of adaptor and tube would work. If the back of the adaptor is open you could even get a nut in there on the screw
Photo for reference

 

[CountryGent]

I see Lage has an AR-15 adapter:



What additional AR parts would I need and is there a wood AR stock readily available? (What I am, more less, trying to achieve is like an Uzi with a wood stock, but Mac-10 and parts available.).

Thanks.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

I see Lage has an AR-15 adapter:

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What additional AR parts would I need and is there a wood AR stock readily available? (What I am, more less, trying to achieve is like an Uzi with a wood stock, but Mac-10 and parts available.).

Thanks.

If it's going on a Mac-10 I woudl just go wood stock to the gun directly. The Korean uses a thin metal bracket on his wood stocks and that somehow connects to the mp5s. So same concept woudl work. Wood stock to bracket. Then bolts in receiver to the bracket.

The problem with ar tube brackets like in your pic is the massive size. You would likely have to make a custom bracket inside the wood stock that would screw into that big buffer tube adapter. Seems very difficult to me. In contrast, a simple thin bracket would have the wood go right to the receiver and no need to imbed things in the wood.

Here is size of tube adapter on the gun. That's a huge adapter that wouldn't be needed at all for a wood stock.

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• ilikegunspdx
• Jun 13, 2024

You could also set a bracket into the wood. Here's a 22 I couldn't fit into backpack so I made a folder out of it. If the folding bracket was set inside the wood the gap between the wood would be very small, about 1/4-1/2 I would guess. It's shown here with big gap because I never bothered to set the brackets into the wood to close the gap. Hinge will still be on the outside same as a wwII arisaka paratrooper folding wood stock. Just an example to show a small adapter that could be pretty easily set inside the wood stock. Doesn't have to be a folding adapter. Not really needed though for what you are going for though imo. Just a simple bracket on the outside of the stock or insets in the wood to bolt into from the receiver.

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• ilikegunspdx
• Aug 24, 2021

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• ilikegunspdx
• May 9, 2020

 

[ilikegunspdx]

You could Fe drill two holes in the back of the receiver and set these kind of things into the stock. I know they make ones specifically for wood I just don't know what they are called. Maybe they are for furniture or something. McMaster Carr might sell them? The Korean uses brass ones like this but a larger diameter and they are set into the wood.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Speaking of Ingram guns, saw a reciever with 11" barrel at Atlantic and this 11" barrel at kak. Purpose is to put an AR handguard on it but I was thinking what about porting the barrel and instead of handguard install an integrated suppressor. Similar effect to mp5-sd. Maybe that's how the original ones were? I remember seeing some oddball suppressor but have no idea if it went over a ported barrel or not. Just something interesting I saw related to these guns and may not be of any interest. @wired would know on the porting.

MAC-11 Barrel, 9mm, 11.5", Handguard Threaded

Elevate your MAC-11 with our threaded 9mm barrel, measuring 11.5 inches, and featuring a threaded handguard for enhanced customization and performance in various shooting applications.

kakindustry.com

 

[Ratboi69]

I would adapt it to picatinny/1913 rail. The sky is the limit for the type of stock you can use probably 100+ options.

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These kind you can put wood inserts or cheek risers in which looks really cool Imo.
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This skeleton stock is beautiful. Who makes this ?