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Should felons be able to legally own firearms?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Riot, Feb 11, 2014.

  1. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    This isn't an easy answer. To me, I feel that the guy that gets drunk, writes a fraud check or smokes dope shouldn't necessarily be put into the same category as murderers, assaulters and rapists...however, I whole-heartedly think that violent offenders should never have access to firearms at all.

    This isn't necessarily a thread about our justice system, but what you feel about a former felon carrying or owning firearms. Some of these guys are hardcore criminals that will re-offend and some of them are just kids that got hammered.

    Discuss...
     
  2. bnsaibum

    bnsaibum Corvallis, OR Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer

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    If they are still deemed so much of a threat that they cannot be trusted with a legal firearm, why are they let out?
     
  3. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    It is an easy answer and already being discussed in another current thread.

    YES they should be able. If they are not "safe" enough to have a gun WHY are they even free? That is the underlying problem. Also when have ALL the laws we have now stopped a felon that wanted a gun from getting one?

    There should be no repeat offenders. That might be a little hard, but no multiple repeat offenders. That phrase should not even be in our vocabulary...........
     
  4. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    It's not an easy answer. Some people are stupid...even with a gun. Some people get drunk, shoot rounds in the air and accidently kill someone.

    Should they go to prison for LIFE or be put to death? No. Should they ever handle a gun again? No.

    Obviously this is just my opinion and you are more than entittled to your own.
     
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  5. Kevinkris

    Kevinkris Aloha Well-Known Member

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    i have to say the punishment should fit the crime. many people have their rights stripped for ridiculous things but others who have demonstrated the lack of respect for the right of others should not be given such respect without demonstrating change.
     
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  6. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    That speaks to the second point of my post. What is actually going to stop a "prohibited" person from getting a firearm if they really want one?
     
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  7. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    If someone can't abide by laws and act as a responsible member of society then they are probably not responsible enough to own or act safely with firearms.
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  8. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    This.
     
  9. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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    You are wrong, it is a very easy answer because it has already been answered--The 2nd
    amendment does not have any qualifiers for gun ownership. Unfortunately after our representatives tampering, the 2nd as we know it today is no longer recognizable compared to it's original simplicity.
     
  10. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    Which is probably true at the time they commit the crime.

    I think people can change, wearing a scarlet letter for the rest of their days is not as much of an incentive to do so, I don't think I would want to aspire to be a good second class citizen. I'm all for second chances, redemption and forgiveness. I think the laws in Washington and Oregon are pretty fair.

    I have several friends that are waiting for their 5 years to pass so they can have their civil and firearms rights restored, they are good people and well capable of handling their firearms responsibly.
     
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  11. Bacchus

    Bacchus The Republic Active Member

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    Too many political crimes getting labeled as felonies. Too many serious crimes not being termed felonies.

    I prefer that all those who did their time get their gun rights restored, otherwise it's all political.
     
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  12. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    All convicted non-violent Felons; they did the time they should get their rights restored, AND IMHO they should also have voting rights restored, too.


    (Most) convicted Felons of violent crimes (in both cases): HELL NO
     
  13. jluck

    jluck Really,Really, Close to Newport Oregon 97365 Voted #1 Member

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    Five years? That must be a Washington thing. Oregon is 15 years.
     
  14. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    What should happen is when the fool is shooting off his weapon, a responsible bystander draws their own weapon and quickly dispatches the threat.

    We need more armed citizens walking our streets.
     
  15. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Do to frivolous laws, overcrowded prisons, lack of funding, and many more issues, our prison system is not used to rehabilitate offenders. In most cases, it is used as a form of punishment and retaliation for the crime as in the Code of Hammurabi. If there were proven rehabilitation and contrition for non-violent crimes, then a case could be made for reinstatement.
     
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    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    I'm not super familiar with the nuances of it, I think there are crimes that mandate longer waiting periods in WA as well. There are some crimes that preclude reinstatement entirely.
     
  17. taylor

    taylor Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    I like the way it is written in Oregon law; someone who commits a non-violent felony and stays clean for 15 years is ok to own firearms as long as he avoids any Federal connection like- Buying through ffl. shooting or carrying on federal lands, committing a federal crime of any sort etc.
     
  18. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Seems pretty stupid to me.
     
  19. jluck

    jluck Really,Really, Close to Newport Oregon 97365 Voted #1 Member

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    It is not at all that easy. There is usually (if not always) Lawyers, judges, paperwork, time and patients to get it done. I watched a guy just successfully accomplish this. He is one of few if not the only one to get it done in Lincoln county. There is still a red flag every time he tries to buy a gun.
     
  20. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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    He can quit being red flagged by enrolling with the FBI's Voluntary Appeal File they will give him a U-Pin# that he can give the dealer when he fills out the paperwork & that will screen him much faster without a delay