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Out here in the sticks, we have almost nobody who actually tries, or needs to get anywhere for normal business on a bicycle. What we do have is a bunch dilettante, wannabe Lance Armstrongs (I call them "Sweaty People in Clown Suits"®) who want to go sight seeing. The only problem with that is that most of our roads have little or no shoulder, and are flanked by 6 foot wide and 4 foot deep ditches. The space available for a bicycle is literally the width of the fog line. And yet, people are willing to risk their own lives, and the lives of me and my family, in order to go sightseeing on their bicycles. The traffic is doing 55 mph and they are doing 15 mph. Somebody following them in the opposing lane gets impatient and pulls out without enough clearance and MY day gets ruined. Or I'm following a large truck and can't see the bicyclist, and at the last instant the truck swerves out around him, and I'm left with no time to react. Nobody should be risking lives in order to see the scenery from their bicycles.
Country roads are pretty much the safest place to ride. Very little traffic, few intersections, usually good line of sight, very easy to pass you, and very low on multi-tasking demands. Just follow the fog line! Doesn't get any safer or easier than that.
Do people riding horseback on your country roads also upset you? Do tractors? Does the mailman? Does the newspaper deliverer? Garbage truck?
I've addressed you where I felt you were wrong or you had outrageous assumptions.
You marginalized / ignored them, ultimately with claim that motor vehicles are not bikes.
I argued they were. You again held to your assertion and tried to use my own posted statutes as the basis.
I patiently showed you where Oregon State disagreed with you and by default, so did Multnomah County.
You STILL want to argue about it claiming IF it stands (twice lost mind you) and you ask what does the Oregon Supreme Court have to say. All awhile you claim to have studied the law on this matter. I have not studied this particular part of the Oregon Statutes but know that case law is where the rubber meets the road and it took me 5 second to find it.
You can continue spouting off but honestly, you've lost all credibility for me and I have nothing more to offer... apart from I agree with ZigZagZeke's sentiments above.
Good evening.
Country roads are pretty much the safest place to ride. Very little traffic, few intersections, usually good line of sight, very easy to pass you, and very low on multi-tasking demands. Just follow the fog line! Doesn't get any safer or easier than that.
Do people riding horseback on your country roads also upset you? Do tractors? Does the mailman? Does the newspaper deliverer? Garbage truck?
How do you share the road with bicyclists?
. . . . . . . . - what exactly do you have against bicycles?
I don't know where you're from, but you need to spend some time in Eugene observing that "small number of bad apples."As to your other complaints - I understand these are common complaints, but, as I've already stated in other places in this thread, you're talking about a small number of bad apples that give the rest of the community a bad name.
They don't pay their fair share, and the sense of entitlement they have is amazing. These are the first two that comes to (my) mind first.