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Senate bill authorizes

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Just Jim, Jan 15, 2012.

  1. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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  2. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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  3. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Huh, imagine that... CIVILLIANS attempting to strip CITIZENS of their citizenship if it ever suits them.
     
  4. Kevatc

    Kevatc Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to read the actual senate bill rather than someone else's take on it. Sounds like the bill would be more for the likes of al-Alwaki than Joe Beercan.
     
  5. saxon

    saxon springfield Active Member

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    10/12/2011:
    Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.

    go to THOMAS (Library of Congress) search by bill number S.1698



    we are all now guility

    the quotes i give you Title 18 of the US Code as currently published by the US Government reflects the laws passed by Congress as of Jan. 7, 2011, and it is this version that is published here

    they had it all planned


    1481. Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...81----000-.html

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    (7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction
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    2383. Rebellion or insurrection
    How Current is This? Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...85----000-.html
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    2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
    How Current is This? Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

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    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...84----000-.html
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    2384. Seditious conspiracy
    How Current is This? If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof,
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  6. Browning55

    Browning55 Seattle-Everett Area Active Member

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    Hmmm. Seems like the unbelievable might be real. Can't find anything saying it's false. Would Obama and his buddies ever love that setup.
     
  7. oldbrass

    oldbrass WA Active Member

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    Isn`t this how Hitler started ??
     
  8. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Not exactly, I think they have to confiscate your wealth too to be just like the Nazi Socialist. You can look for them to give themselves the right to steal your money when they throw you out next..

    jj
     
  9. dmancornell

    dmancornell Portland, OR New Member

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    Dunno about you, but the feds confiscate a big chunk of my paycheck every two weeks.
     
  10. halmbarte

    halmbarte PDX Active Member

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    W kicked the ball off when it comes to detention w/o trial. You remember Jose Padillia, right?

     
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    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    The quoted items are true but misleading as this is left out:
    So, unless they declare war it doesn't apply, but still worried: What if they illegally declare martial law on some put up pretense like the Occupy movement?
     
  12. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    :rofl1: So you voted for O and change you could believe in. How is that all working out for us?

    jj
     
  13. halmbarte

    halmbarte PDX Active Member

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    Neither party has the interests of average citizens as a priority.

    H
     
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  14. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    I case you weren't paying attention a few weeks ago, due to recent legislation, signed by the pres (after he said he wouldn't) the U.S. (domestic holdings included) now has a "battlefield" designation.
    In that legislation, language was inserted, denying the dotgov the ability to detain citizens by the (our) military indefinitely.
    So here we have legislation that modifies the Immigration and Nationality Act, allowing the dotgov to remove your status as a citizen more easily, even if you were born here to parents born here.
    Thereby circumventing the amendment(s) in the previous NDAA bill.
    Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    Ya gotta connect the dots, but it's there.
     
  15. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    Habeas Corpus Stands Firm in El Paso County, Colorado!

    "Utah had its Sheriff Mack. Maricopa County, Arizona has Sheriff Joe Arpaio. But Colorado Springs, Colorado has Terry Maketa.

    In November 2011, Sheriff Maketa of El Paso County, Colorado, along with its five County Commissioners struck a blow for freedom and the Constitutional rights of citizens.

    These six signed a proclamation affirming the right to Habeas Corpus which the National Defense Authorization Bill or Senate Bill 1867 removed when it was signed into law by President Obama.

    The proclamation which has gone viral, affirms that the local sheriff, who is any county’s top cop, can override actions taken by the military or the Feds to arrest someone without notification to the Sheriff.

    Under this proclamation, the Sheriff will make sure that a Miranda warning is given, the right to see a judge and the right to NOT be taken out of the county or held incommunicado without permission is upheld."

    Our Sheriffs are the most important person you will vote for, they are the law.
     
  16. FORKLIFT252

    FORKLIFT252 Oregon Active Member

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    True. ......but what's a sheriff to do when 15 MIB's
    Pull up and the "suit"gets out with"paper work?"
     
  17. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    You call Barney Fife.0, that's what you do!