Semi-auto shotgun, possibly SBS, project; recommendations?

[NeoBlackdog]

(Bonus; no eternal damnation for modifying a classic scattergun. )

AMEN!

 

[CountryGent]

OK, I've seen enough that it appears 500/590 stocks work on 990. Fore-grip, this I still am researching; perhaps 930/940? I would think so from visual appearance. If anyone knows, the information would be helpful.

 

[CountryGent]

So, I was looking to acquire the base gun today or perhaps this weekend. Farting around on Gunbroker and I'm kind of torn between two options: Lynx-12 or Mossberg 990. They both have pluses and minuses.

Lynx-12:

• Box-fed. (I believe Saiga compatible.)
• Uses standard AK furniture, so wood would be certainly do-able.
• Prices I'm seeing are in the ~$600—700 zone.
• After Form 1, I would have to have the barrel shortened and engraved.

Mossberg 990:

• Tube-fed.
• Uses readily available 500/590 stocks.
• Prices I'm seeing on this one are ~$800—$1,000.
• After Form 1, it would just be added a stock and engraving. I'd like to have both wood stock and forend, but I'm not sure what, if anything, would work. (Though wood would be prefered, I could live with polymer and metal in this case.)

Anywho, both are interesting and would work. I think the first has the better features, but would be more trouble to SBS. The latter would be easier to turn into a shorty, but it uses a fixed magazine, and costs a tad more. I've had generally good results with Mossberg; the Lynx is a completely unknown quantity, though there has been positive feedback here.

What say you on either of these options? Better idea? Thanks!

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Fwiw Lynx 12 price seems too high to me. Probably because they are discontinued I would guess. If used then that's way, way, too high imo. Just my opinion.

 

[orygun]

So, I was looking to acquire the base gun today or perhaps this weekend. Farting around on Gunbroker and I'm kind of torn between two options: Lynx-12 or Mossberg 990. They both have pluses and minuses.

Lynx-12:

• Box-fed. (I believe Saiga compatible.)
• Uses standard AK furniture, so wood would be certainly do-able.
• Prices I'm seeing are in the ~$600—700 zone.
• After Form 1, I would have to have the barrel shortened and engraved.

Mossberg 990:

• Tube-fed.
• Uses readily available 500/590 stocks.
• Prices I'm seeing on this one are ~$800—$1,000.
• After Form 1, it would just be added a stock and engraving. I'd like to have both wood stock and forend, but I'm not sure what, if anything, would work. (Though wood would be prefered, I could live with polymer and metal in this case.)

Anywho, both are interesting and would work. I think the first has the better features, but would be more trouble to SBS. The latter would be easier to turn into a shorty, but it uses a fixed magazine, and costs a tad more. I've had generally good results with Mossberg; the Lynx is a completely unknown quantity, though there has been positive feedback here.

What say you on either of these options? Better idea? Thanks!

I know nothing about the Lynx.
I know one thing about Mossberg. Reliable.

 

[CountryGent]

Thanks guy.

I'm not seeing many of the Lynx models. The prices above were for NIB specimens. Since posting, I found a couple more new ones in the $450-range, which ain't bad. How difficult is it to remove the barrel?

Roger that on the Mossberg. They put out a solid, no frills, piece, so I'm not surprised they run well.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Thanks guy.

I'm not seeing many of the Lynx models. The prices above were for NIB specimens. Since posting, I found a couple more new ones in the $450-range, which ain't bad. How difficult is it to remove the barrel?

Roger that on the Mossberg. They put out a solid, no frills, piece, so I'm not surprised they run well.

$450 for new is a good price imo. Especially since they are discontinued and prices for most guns have went up a bit since then also.

Unfortunately I have no clue on the barrel. I would assume it would be similar to an AK (cuz it is an AK) or Saiga 12. It has a different bolt and gas system than saiga (much more reliable than Saiga) so it may not be exactly the same. Probably spending some time searching with appropriate keywords will bring up a lot of info on Reddit and other places.

 

[CountryGent]

Thanks again. Looks like removing the barrel from a Lynx is a semi-PITA, because it is pressed into the receiver. At least according to the Intratubes. Not a show stopper, but a factor.

 

[CountryGent]

I saw one in pawn shop in city last time was up there; will be headed back to lab next week, so will see if still has.

Was back at lab today, so stopped at pawn shop. Alas, they no have the Mossberg 990 any more. I did spy a Uzi carbine that looked ever so tempting for an SBR candidate, but a total nutbag was talking the ear off of the shopkeep and after farting around a bit, I decided to bail.

I contacted Mossberg to determine if the foregrip of the 940 and 990 are compatible, because Boyd's makes a nice set for the 940. I got a vague response saying, essentially, "we don't offer a wood stocked 990, try a third party vendor like woox or Boyd's ". Yah, I already knew that; replied asking again about compatibility.

Parenthetically, if anyone knows if they are, the info would be fantastic. Thanks!

 

[titsonritz]

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[MTpockets]

My pockets wouldn't be so empty if I had @titsonritz on ignore.

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...not blaming though. I am a product of my own decisions.

 

[CountryGent]

Welp, my follow up question to Mossberg was ignored. And Boyd's couldn't be bothered to reply at all. So I still don't if wood furniture is a go for the 990. I exchanged some PMs with Cotton Branch on Monday, but haven't heard further after asking how to move forward with one of the guns (a Remington 11) they already have in stock.

So, kinda kicking around the Lynx 12 and install wood furniture, and have it shortened after registered. I've found one for five c-notes that could work. (On that note, I recall @wired has done a lot of work with AK pattern firearms. Curious on his thoughts on that or the projected outline in the OP in general.)

 

[wired]

Welp, my follow up question to Mossberg was ignored. And Boyd's couldn't be bothered to reply at all. So I still don't if wood furniture is a go for the 990. I exchanged some PMs with Cotton Branch on Monday, but haven't heard further after asking how to move forward with one of the guns (a Remington 11) they already have in stock.

So, kinda kicking around the Lynx 12 and install wood furniture, and have it shortened after registered. I've found one for five c-notes that could work. (On that note, I recall @wired has done a lot of work with AK pattern firearms. Curious on his thoughts on that or the projected outline in the OP in general.)

Lynx's are good shotguns. I'd say in many ways better than Saigas and I say that as a guy who made good money working on Saigas and has never made a dime working on lynx's. Unfortunately theyre not 229 bucks any more but I do own one. Put a bi folder bulgarian stock on it and that is definitely something I want to undo. That that HURTS to shoot.

 

[CountryGent]

Thanks much @wired. Are Kalash stocks "plug and play" or does it require modification?

 

[wired]

Thanks much @wired. Are Kalash stocks "plug and play" or does it require modification?

Kalash as in kalashnicarver?

 

[CountryGent]

Kalash as in kalashnicarver?

No, I mean ordinary AK-47 type furniture. (Sorry, was using shorthand.)

 

[wired]

No, I mean ordinary AK-47 type furniture. (Sorry, was using shorthand.)

Yes it does except for the forend and the usual saiga parts work

 

[ilikegunspdx]

For lynx 12 wood furniture my suggestion would be to go with whatever desired standard ak stock and pistol grip. Then get a Vepyr wood foregrip and modify it.

Here's my $25 Vepyr (rifle?) Wood stock kit I modified for lynx 12. Stock was a pain to modify being a thumbhole stock of a different pattern. Handguard was very easy.

If you need a handguard I have two more sets I paid $25 for (for stock plus handguard).


This guy has a diy for cutting it down. I didn't do that. Just dremeled areas where it was too tight. If I didn't care about it being too long I would sand off the checkering and cut it down to proper length.

Some other links from a 2 min google search fyi.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ak47/comments/qram4x/sds_lynx_compatible_furniture

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/ak47/comments/qram4x/sds_lynx_compatible_furniture/


https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/...one-Info-Parts-Compatibility/1-525960/?page=2

 

[CountryGent]

On interesting possibility ... I found surplus, 14" barrel, Remington 11-87 Police short barrel shotguns for sale. Acquire, send to FFL/SOT, transfer, then replace with wood stocks? At least a thought I'm kicking around.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

On interesting possibility ... I found surplus, 14" barrel, Remington 11-87 Police short barrel shotguns for sale. Acquire, send to FFL/SOT, transfer, then replace with wood stocks? At least a thought I'm kicking around.

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I Think one of those is for sale here at NWFA....
Johnnyhammersticks.....
I have bought from him before...good man to deal with.
Andy