SBR build... How to get started

JeremyK · Feb 1, 2015

Ok so I've got an ar15 barrel I'm in the process of turning down to 13" (before anyone jumps on me, I have NO intention of mating it to an upper until I have all my t's crossed and i's dotted) and I want to know how to get the paperwork started to get the SBR tax stamp. I am planning on mating the barrel to an existing rifle I have, just a simple barrel swap. And I put in for more than one tax stamp at the same time? If an AOW stamp is only $5, I figure making a serbu-shorty-style 500 or 870 can't be that hard, but I'm really not sure what the laws are concerning "manufacturing" one as opposed to "buying" one. I know this can be confusing ground and I get a thousand different answers when I try googling it, so input from members who have gone through the process would be great. Thanks guys! By the way I'm an Oregonian, not a Washingtonian, I'm sure that makes a difference.

SCARed · Feb 1, 2015

First thing is to figure out if your going to have the item in a trust or as an individual.
Next is to to send your application (form 1). You'll be including the serial number from whatever lower your going to register.
Wait for the stamp.
When received, build SBR.

I'm a small nutshell, that's it.

ARFcom has a big section on NFA stuff that in my opinion, is much better than the high school BS that the rest of the forum is comprised of.

jbett98 · Feb 1, 2015

You also need to engrave the SBR lower with your name/trust and city/state.
The same as what will be on the form 1.
Since you know what length barrel you are putting on it, you need to collapse the rear stock and figure out the total overall length, as that will be asked on the form 1 also.

JeremyK · Feb 1, 2015

jbett98 said:
You also need to engrave the SBR lower with your name/trust and city/state.
The same as what will be on the form 1.
Since you know what length barrel you are putting on it, you need to collapse the rear stock and figure out the total overall length, as that will be asked on the form 1 also.

Is that something I can do with an electric pencil or metal stamps or something?

jbett98 · Feb 1, 2015

It's best to take it to an engraver.
Bye Engraving Inc. on SW Barbur Blvd is who I use and they are the nicest people to work with and they do a great job.

Modeler · Feb 1, 2015

JeremyK said:
Is that something I can do with an electric pencil or metal stamps or something?

You could, but it would look like crap compared to an actual engraving job that will cost less than $50.

Nwcid · Feb 1, 2015

There are specific requirements of what to engrave and how deep. First one is NFA info, the second has the engraving info it in.

https://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-6.pdf

https://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-7.pdf

You could (unlikely to be caught) charged with constructive possession or intent if you have parts in your possession that will only able to make "illegal" combinations. So unless you have no rifle AR's or have at least 1 pistol AR I would not be for keeping a short barrel around since it could only be used for illegal purposes (until you have your stamp).

On your comment about the $5 for AOW that is ONLY for transfer of an AOW. ALL making and transfer taxes are $200 with that one exception.

Another good link is the NFA Handbook, http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms...tions-firearms-national-firearms-act-handbook

JeremyK · Feb 2, 2015

So

Nwcid said:
There are specific requirements of what to engrave and how deep. First one is NFA info, the second has the engraving info it in.

https://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-6.pdf

https://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-7.pdf

You could (unlikely to be caught) charged with constructive possession or intent if you have parts in your possession that will only able to make "illegal" combinations. So unless you have no rifle AR's or have at least 1 pistol AR I would not be for keeping a short barrel around since it could only be used for illegal purposes (until you have your stamp).

On your comment about the $5 for AOW that is ONLY for transfer of an AOW. ALL making and transfer taxes are $200 with that one exception.

Another good link is the NFA Handbook, http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms...tions-firearms-national-firearms-act-handbook

So transfer as in with a $5 tax stamp I would be able to buy an AOW?

SCARed · Feb 2, 2015

JeremyK said:
So

So transfer as in with a $5 tax stamp I would be able to buy an AOW?

Yes. Except, you first buy the AOW, then apply for the stamp to take possession/complete the transfer.

Nwcid · Feb 2, 2015

JeremyK said:
So

So transfer as in with a $5 tax stamp I would be able to buy an AOW?

You pick out your AOW and pay the shop for it. Then you fill out a Form 4 (transfer form) and submit it with the appropriate tax. With transfer of AOW the tax is $5. In several months when the Form 4 comes back approved you can go back to the gun shop and pick up your AOW.

If you build an AOW then you fill out a Form 1 (building form) and submit it with the appropriate tax. With making an AOW (or any other NFA item) the tax is $200. When the Form 1 comes back approved you can assemble your AOW.

keitha300wsm · Feb 6, 2015

It is best to have an 07 manufacturer build it. It is $5 to have it transferred to you. If you build it on a form 1 it would be $200 for manufacture than $5 if you sold and transferred to someone. Also the shotgun has to come from the factory with just a pistol grip on it. If it has ever had a stock on it is a SBS not an AOW. SBS is $200 every time it transfers. D&D has several 870 AOWs in stock. 541-258-6811