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Saiga 12 Price hike ridiculous!!

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by Mason3379, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. Mason3379

    Mason3379 Oregon City Active Member

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    Is it just me or is the price hike on the Saiga 12 in the past two months ridiculous??:huh:
    Why is it that everyone is using the excuse "they are going to ban them"?:bsflag: I have been hearing that for almost three months now and still, THEY ARE LEGAL TO OWN AND BUY!!:nuts: So why does that make your factory shotgun that you bought previous to three months ago worth 300$ more than you paid for it?:huh::huh:
    My opinion is that the stupid scare tactic is just to drive the price up, which it has done! :paranoid:
    Are they really that great? Can they do anything my pump shotgun won't do?:gun19::shooting:
    Am I missing something or do they fire money out the end of the barrel instead of bird shot?:huh: :gun04:
     
  2. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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    leave it up to the latest fad in tacticool weapons and all the hype. I bought a 410 version (for golphers) when they first came out for $200 along with the 762x39 version at the same price, I wouldnt pay what they go for now.
     
  3. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    Hype and hysteria, caused by rumors of bans and bankruptcy.

    Yes. I can squeeze off 10 rounds, reload, squeeze off 10 rounds, reload, squeeze off 10 rounds...in under 30 seconds.

    Keith
     
  4. NoAim

    NoAim Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    I bought my first Saiga-12 for $229
     
  5. littlegsxr

    littlegsxr Below Canada. Active Member

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    I saw one at a local bigger gun shop and asked what the price was, he said something like $1800.... "Because they banned em". I quit listening from there. It was a simple converted saiga 12, even the History channels Red Jacket only charges $895 and I figured they would think those were gold.
    I will wait for my Keltec KSG, not semi but lots of carnage
     
  6. chris61182

    chris61182 A little west of Portland Active Member

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    Something else that's going on is I believe importers are changing. Which once they finish working through the red tape should be good because I believe there's going to be more than one now.
     
  7. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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    Well, let's see, Can your "pump shotgun" accept a 30rd drum magazine???
     
  8. MountainBear

    MountainBear Sweet Home, OR Well-Known Member

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    Actually if I really wanted a drum magazine, yes...

    Knoxx Sidewinder Shotgun Conversion Kit with 10-Round Drum Magazine Maverick 88, Mossberg 500, 590, 590A1 Composite and Steel Black - MidwayUSA

    Maybe its not 30 rounds, but I prefer the reliability of a pump. Just by pure engineering, there is less to go wrong. Do your job and assuming its a quality gun (or at least not a manufacturer screw up) and it will cycle everything it gets fed. No adjusting gas ports or pistons. Just stoke it and run it.

    I'd like to play with a 20 gauge Saiga, but not at these prices. I'll wait until the hysteria is over and get one then...
     
  9. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    At $200-$300 they were a bargain. At $500 they were reasonable (for a semi-auto mag fed shotgun). At the current prices they are a rip off.
     
  10. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    That Sidewinder has been discontinued by the manufacturer. Why? It looks like a good concept. Reliability issues? Low sales volume?

    Keith
     
  11. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    I have this theory about why Arsenal Inc of Las Vegas would be a large finical contributor to Senator Harry Reid, but I won't go over that again. This isn't some start of an Internet rumor but according a Lee Horton sales rep, there is another boat load of Saiga 12's coming in. Go figure.

    Bottom line: watch out for the Patriots for Profit as our own fellow gun owners are sometimes our own worst enemy.

    SF-
     
  12. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    IMO and only MHO, this isn't some start of a flame war so if the following comment offends you PM me your address and I'll send you a box of tissues.... The side winder magazine was a piece of junk.

    SF-
     
  13. chris61182

    chris61182 A little west of Portland Active Member

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    It's my understanding that the first batch of new Saiga rifles (no idea if it includes shotguns) is already in customs hands, and it's just a matter of dotting the i-s and crossing the t-s.

    P.S. One of the new importers has them on their web page, WOLF Performance Arms - Home
     
  14. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    I am so glad I didn't sell mine overpriced to a friend or someone I see on a day to day basis.

    SF-
     
  15. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    Well, that pretty much sums up what I figured, since it only appears to have been on the market for a short time.

    I'll stick with my Saiga :) .

    Keith
     
  16. Dieselfuel12v

    Dieselfuel12v Bellingham Member

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    parsons_12b LaPine Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Even through them its still a $600 shotgun I dont think prices will fall below that for a while. people may advirtise lowers prices but I dont they have any on hand.
     
  18. The Cheese

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    my thing is, how much is a new 11-87 or 1100 or any other semi-auto shotgun, let alone one that can take 10+ round mags? Even at 6 bills its not a bad deal. Yeah, you have to put some work and a little more $$ into them to convert them to make them "fun", but typically you would have to do the same to most any other auto loading shotgun to get something similar. As long as they stay available I don't really care what they cost. The market will dictate what they are worth. Plus you also have to factor in the weakening of the dollar into the price hike. The dollar ain't what it used to be on the international market.
     
  19. CavVet

    CavVet Seattle Member

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    Yes.

    Most AR's & AK's are easily the average Saiga 12 price now, just a different caliber...


    And a LOT more fun!
     
  20. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    Funny thing about Americans, when things are plentiful and cheap we ignore it and take it for granted. Once we are told we might not be able to own one, then and only then do we care about.

    Somebody already compared the S12 to a high end 11-87, so let's compare it to a benelli shotgun (not the nova) like an M1 or there M4, huge difference in price and the durability is mastered in it's own perspective areas. I tell people that a benelli is like a ferrai(SP?) and the Saiga 12 is like a unimog. Personally after I got my S12 from Tromix I no longer had a desire to keep the benelli.

    Is it worth the price hike? I don't think so, but then I got two so I am not an unbiased person to ask.

    SF-