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Revolver Trigger Locks...Love Em or Hate Em?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by freestoneangler, Dec 24, 2014.

  1. freestoneangler

    freestoneangler wa Well-Known Member

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    I'm in the market for a S&W .357, most likely a 686 Plus in 3 or 4 inch. I'm seeing lots of posts on Gun Broker, etc. with the "pre-lock" notation. Not knowing the specific history on this, my brief research found this good article on the subject. As suspected, it was a company response to appease the anti-gun crowd. I guess if one was inclined to leave a loaded gun around or an unloaded gun with ammo in plain sight, having the lock does add a back-up level of safety... but that presumes the ding-dong who leaves loaded guns around remembers to use the trigger lock.

    http://www.luckygunner.com/lounge/smith-and-wesson-internal-lock/

    What is your opinion on trigger locks? Have you avoided purchase of S&W revolvers that have them? Aside from the aesthetics and any possible malfunction they might introduce (which sounds like a non-issue?), not sure it would drive what gun I buy, but curious what others think. (Please see my thread in Handgun forum -- soliciting advice on which model...help me spend my money :D).
     
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  2. orygun

    orygun West Linn Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I didn't vote because I can't say I hate them, but I'd prefer a gun to not have one. Ruger single actions have one of the best. If you want to be able to activate it, you either need to remove the grips or drill a hole in one of the grip panels. At least I didn't have to look at a key hole.

    I think trigger locks are stupid.
     
  3. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    Ruger removed the LCR's internal lock in early 2014 if that says anything. I would prefer not to own a pistol with one even though the chance of it inadvertently activating are probably very remote. Just one more thing to go wrong.

    Keith
     
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  4. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    Its added stuff to go wrong that has absolutely no value or upside to me. I would avoid (and have) any with such a feature.
     
  5. filsonhand

    filsonhand In the Silicon Forest Smooth as a Rhino 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    THEY SUCK !!!!!!
    IVE SEEN ONE FAIL ON A SMITH 460 RENDERING THE GUN USELESS.. Smith was quick to fix the issue,but my buddie sold it and bought a ruger alaskan,as it was his primary woods carry and he didn't trust it anymore :(
    I haven't had any issues on my governor,but that is the only revolver I have a lock on cause I didn't have a choice.
     
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  6. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I have intentionally not purchased a S&W with a lock, much because the deal wasn't perfect but the lock didn't help the sale either! I would buy a lockable S&W in the right deal but I won't carry one!
     
  7. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    I know how to lock up a gun, so I have no need for one. I have never used the trigger locks on any of my guns other than to verify functionality.
     
  8. MarkAd

    MarkAd Port Orchard Well-Known Member

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    I have one smith wwith aa triiger lock, but have no key and no desire to even test it
     
  9. Wood Worker

    Wood Worker Linn County Oregon Active Member

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    I had a smith 642 with no lock and it was a dream, sold it to someone who needed it more than me, they love it. Later on in life bought an 642 with lock, I didn't like it one bit, I think that the trigger pull was much harder and I have no use for locks. Sold it and bought an old model 66 in .357 and love that one, never want to sell it, plan on keeping it till I am no longer around.

    That was my experience, and I learned by it, others may have different results.
     
  10. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    <- Why there aren't any school shootings in Israel!
    Teacher with long gun slung over her shoulder!!!

    I don't know, I don't have any revolvers with them.

    Deen
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    "A gun is like a parachute. If you need one and don't have it, you'll probably never need one again!"
     
  11. SKN

    SKN Keizer, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    A little off topic but about revolver locks: as a working CA LEO in the '70s got into 2 knock-down, drag out, roll around on the sidewalk fights where my SW 6" M19 was the object of takeaway attempts. One, with a Hoyt break front, was stopped with a generous dose of Kel-o-caine; the other, where the M19 was in a clam shell, ceased when I accessed my back-up and thrust it sharply under the perpetrator's chin with my pronouncement to him that "it's over!".

    These events prompted me to have a LASD armorer install a safety activated by the cylinder release that oriented much like a 1911 safety: up/on, down/off. When the agency went to SW39/59 series of semis I still appreciated the mag disconnect feature even through the evolutions of double and triple retention holster systems.

    All my SW revolvers (4) are 'pre-lock', including my duty M19, and though both my kids (ages 16 and 12) have been trained I don't leave loaded firearms openly laying around.
     
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  12. Hook686

    Hook686 Northern California Active Member

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    Love, hate I consider the two primary emotions behund all other emotions. Pretty powerful I'm thinking. I love my girlfriend, my kids, my grandkids, my service dog, but things ? I cannot say I love things, not even beer. I like/dislike things, but love. Pretty strong emotion. I have the lock on my S&W revolvers. I am okay with it. Actually it offers another level of safety if I am lazy and leave a revolver on my bench and the grand kids drop by for an unexpected visit. I don't get parnoid when I find I suffered a senior moment and left the 686 on the bench. So, I'd probably prefer to have the lock in my correct phase in my life, but would not miss it if my revolvers did not have one.
     
  13. Liberty97045

    Liberty97045 Oregon City Well-Known Member

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    The clam shell style can be quickly removed with a small penknife. You can release the ratchet pawl with any small tools slipped between the trigger guard and the lock. I figured this out when I was 12.

    Better stick with the ones that lock through the barrel or through the frame or better yet, a ready access box.
     
  14. rodell

    rodell Newcastle, WA Active Member

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    I have revolvers with and without the internal lock.

    I remove the lock and place a flush plug in the hole. Looks just fine and I don't have to worry about inadvertent locking.

    When S&W first put them on I, like many others, was put off. Now I don't care.
     
  15. BlindedByScience

    BlindedByScience Vancouver WA Well-Known Member

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    I have a 642 with a lock that has been back to Cylinder and Slide for 'the works'. It's never been a problem, I've almost forgotten it's there. My Taurus .357 is the same; yes it has a lock, no it's never been a problem. Would I prefer wheel guns without the lock, sure. Am I concerned about the locks I have....no.
     
  16. Mongo1

    Mongo1 Santiam Canyon Active Member

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    You are all free to use any trigger lock you chose. I don't use any.
     
  17. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Revolvers aren't supposed to have locks!

    While it is cliche like... I have guns without safeties and trigger locks for a reason (except a few that there is nothing I can do about)...

    Otherwise this is the second most important thing behind only what's between your ears:

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  18. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Worst thing ever! I'm not going to bash MFG's here..BUT good grief. I have had revolvers all of a sudden stop working...Yep lock engaged itself.

    I had one just last week, a very common new carry gun. The none lock version. Guess what, the polymer frame didn't have the hole in it for the lock....But the internals still had the lock mechanism in place! Can you guess what this CCW pistol decided to do while being fired? It locked itself up tight....I mean like someone engaged the internal lock.....
    So disappointed to see that! o_O
     
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    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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  20. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    You know what's really sweet are those cross-bolt "safeties" on single action revolvers and lever guns. yea!
    I fear S&W is going to go out of business soon and catering to California is stoopit.
     
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