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Send her a copy of the Freitas speech from the dem walkout thread.
Also encourage a member of this forum or "yourself" from your district to run for her upcoming vacancy.
We are losing two pro-gunners over here too. Gives me the heebeejeebees.:oops:
 
Representative Ruth Kagi
WA State Democrat.

WTF? Such an UN-American view. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest her ________. OK, Ok, ok......I'll take a breath.

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Aloha, Mark
 
I responded with the following. Yes I misspelled a word (typo) But I think she gets the point.

You are off base on this one. High Powered Rifles are used in competition all over the country. Including the AR-15.

They are used to hunt varmits and other animals that destroy crops on farms and kill livestock on ranchers property.

It is evident that you are uneducated on the bill that you are trying to get through. So, with that in mind please enforce DUI laws and take away the vehicles that kill for more people in the country each year. Quit trying to make criminals out of law abiding citizens. Please stop trying to make laws based on your personal bias. It is sad that a person that is mentally challenged can obtain any firearm, and take a life from someone. But I know personally that criminals know they face no repercussions from committing this type of crime. I spent 12 years in the criminal justice system in this state and know that the criminal has a free ticket here. You guys feel good in passing the "No Death Penalty" bill. I hope you feel equally as good looking at the victims and their families. Remember the criminal has nothing to fear in this state. They go to prison and are not compelled to work. They only have to eat and sleep. They have a vast social life inside, something they did not have on the outside. Compliments of the State of Washington and its taxpayers. I can see from your response that you do not represent me, but instead you are very self serving, and arrogant. Get in touch with reality when sponsoring bills in the state, and listen to "We the People" before passing judgement. Enforce the laws you have on the books, and make it unpleasant for the criminal in this state. By the way an "assault weapon is capable of fully automatic fire". I am also a Life Member of the NRA, and Gun Owners of America. I served in The US Air Force during Viet Nam. I also performed Presidential Support details at Andrews AFB. I support the 2nd Amendment and the US Constitution. I for one am proud of my past, and want to look forward to my remaining years with the same pride. I hope you never become a victim of a crime and have to suffer what others have to. Thanks for the rant, even though I know it goes to death ears.



George

We The People
I sent the abbreviated version:p


Deer Ruth, your so called assault rifle ( correctly a modern semi auto rifle) are used widely across the country for varmint, coyote, wild boar and 100's more species of invasive pest an vermin not to mention deer hunting in many states. You really do sound like a fool when you talk about things you know nothing about.
 
I was sitting around enjoying a stogie between classes and I was thinking about the term Assault Rifle and this response thread from an elected official. It got me thinking about why they keep calling it an "Assault Rifle".
Obviously it stems from the Sturmgewehr 44 (STG 44). the German translation of "Storm Rifle" and the English translation of "Assault Rifle".
I have never heard the M16A2/M4 systems called anything other than their designation or the term "rifle" while I served. so I started digging thinking I might have missed a nomenclature line item change.
just some examples of what I came across, regardless of branch of service, or govt entity it was the same;

from the operator manual (-10)
OPERATOR'S MANUAL FOR
RIFLE, 5.56 MM, M16A2 W/E (1005-01-128-9936) (ElC:4GM)
RIFLE, 5.56 MM, M16A3 (1005-01-367-5112)
RIFLE, 5.56 MM, M16A4 (1005-01-383-2872) (ElC:4F9)
CARBINE, 5.56 MM, M4 W/E (1005-01-231-0973) (EIC:4FJ)
CARBINE, 5.56 MM, M4A1 (1005-01-0953) (ElC:4GC)

FM 3-22.9
2-1. CHARACTERISTICS The M16-/M4-series weapons are 5.56-mm, magazine-fed, gas-operated, air-cooled, shoulder-fired weapons.

Not to my much surprise no mention of "Assault Rifle" in the official publications

I guess what's rubbing me wrong is the blatant misuse of a term to manipulate the uninformed even when the end user DOD/LEO/.GOV does not "Officially" call them assault rifles and they get away with it.

Sorry about the derail, just bothering me. o_O
 
"Their purpose is not to hunt animals -- it is to slaughter people-- and that is what they are used for."
Holy SMOKES! So I've been doing it wrong this whole time?!
We have GOT to get the word out. There's 5-10 MILLION of us misusing our "assault weapons"... hunting, shooting sports, pest/varmint control, silly gongs and paper targets. And don't even get me started on the LE misuse... they haven't killed hardly anybody.
The only ones who are actually using them properly always end up dead or in prison so they don't have the opportunity to teach us the proper use of these firearms. Good thing we have Bloomberg-backed smart people to tell us how to correctly deploy these weapons.

And thus ends my sarcastic, yet incredibly poignant rant. Point is, the facts put the lie to the rhetoric. If ARs, et al, are only used for mass murder, WTF are the other 5-10 MILLION of them (that's AR15s only. Not counting variants, AKs, etc) doing? Apparently... something else.
 
Just as fun to decimate as the "2A is for hunting" argument is the "2A refers to the National Guard" argument.

So... "...the people" in the 2A refers to the government? The government secured it's rights to keep and bear arms in The Bill of Rights? Why would they do that since they hold the power? Why do the other 9 amendments guarantee freedom of the people FROM government intrusion, but this one, single amendment guarantees The Government's rights? The Constitution and BOR's entire purpose for being is to limit government, so why would the founders take such an abrupt left turn at the 2nd, and then come back?
Pose those rebuttals to an anti-gun nut and you'll quickly be called a name, accused of being a shill for the NRA, or told you value your guns more than the lives of children.
No winning of hearts and minds, but the dirty hippie will go away mad.
If it's a reasonable person it could be an education for them, give them something to think about besides regurgitating bullet points they saw on Facebook.
 
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Representative Ruth Kagi from WA State said:
The primary purpose of an assault weapon is to kill as many people as possible. Their purpose is not to hunt animals -- it is to slaughter people-- and that is what they are used for.

I will defend a citizen's right to purchase a shotgun, pistol, or many other types of guns. But assault weapons have no place in a civilized society.

Ruth Kagi,

A famous quote for you.....
"The gun has played a critical role in history. An invention which has been praised and denounced.....served hero and villain alike.....and carries with it moral responsibility. To understand the gun is to better understand history."

BTW......YOU......are a plain idiot. You blame the gun, as if it could......get up off of a table.....load itself.....and go down to a school and start shooting.

Then....who said that the 2nd Amendment was all about hunting?

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You need to review your American history and world history. I don't believe you, when you claim to support the other forms that guns may take. YOU sound like a typical, "gun grabber."

Another Famous quote, this one by Martin Nimbler (with my slight revisions for firearms)......

First they came for the Socialists Bump Fire Stocks, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist had no Bump Fire Stocks.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists Semi-automatic firearms, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist had no Semi-automatic firearms.

Then they came for the Jews shotguns, rifles and revolvers, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew did not own a shotgun, rifle or revolver.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me real weapons left to put up a fight with.

Rrrrrright.....I'm from the Government and I'm here to help.

Aloha, Mark

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I won't send it to her because, it would be useless. Like talking to a stone. She sounds like she has already made up her mind about banning inanimate objects over punishing criminals. What's next? A ban on knives? Or hammers? Or fertilizer? Or pressure cookers? Or vehicles? Etc....
 
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Well, there is that... :eek:
It's what I'd do if I didn't have a soul or conscience and was them, round us all up into a detention facility, one little gas leak, one worng spark or match... *BOOM!* "Those right wing terrorists blew themselves up trying to break out, we gotta round all you political minorities and put you into Konzentrazionslagern for your own protection..."
 
I just hope they bring more than one body bag for me. I'm gonna have a few friends as well.:)

Sad thing is that people who like to listen to themselves never listen to others. A very typical liberal who is always right.
 
Nah, it will only happen when some dumb?ss politician is tied and blindfolded on a bloody floor that they will ask theirself, "isn't this what the second amendmant was supposed to prevent.
Just me.
 
Um, ever heard of a "mass grave"?

reeducation camp = mass grave to the left. They aren't against guns and violence, just guns not in the hands of authorities or the capability of the subjects to rise up against their masters. I wonder how many on the left mistakenly think they will be a master (one or two percent of the population at best ) and not a subject/slave when they finally get what they want? Funny, at the end of the day they will still be 99%ers, but now literally have no way out.
 
I do not understand how the left believe they will win anything with their words alone. Of course words have power but they have more power when those words are backed up by a gun. Such as the police, the courts, the government.

Feinstein, Kate Brown and the like, love their ccw. It's usually about 6', 200lbs. But they never mention...oh, by the way. We hate guns but we're not stupid enough to mingle around you losers without Bruno here.
 
Dear George,

Thank you for your email regarding SB 6620. I am a co-sponsor of the House version of this legislation. I do not believe that assault weapons should be available for sale -- to anyone, but that at a minimum should require an enhanced background check to purchase. The primary purpose of an assault weapon is to kill as many people as possible. Their purpose is not to hunt animals -- it is to slaughter people-- and that is what they are used for.

In fact, high capacity magazines are commonly used in mass shootings. According to a 2013 study, high-capacity magazines were used in 50% of the 62 mass shootings that occurred between 1982 and 2012. These weapons are extremely dangerous, and when they are used in mass shootings, the death rate rose 63% and the injury rate rose 156%. By requiring enhanced background checks for high capacity magazines, we have the opportunity to reduce gun deaths, and make Washington state a safer place.

I will defend a citizen's right to purchase a shotgun, pistol, or many other types of guns. But assault weapons have no place in a civilized society.

I appreciate hearing from you.

Best Regards,
Representative Ruth Kagi

Chair, Early Learning and Human Services

32nd Legislative District

[email protected]

Check out my website here. You can also sign up for legislative updates here.
At least she was upfront and honest. Many pols try wishy washy speak to make you think they support the 2nd Amendment but when they really depise it. Hope that Rep gets voted out one day.
 

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