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Q-A about an FA rec, and SBR

Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by Garg, Dec 17, 2015.

  1. Garg

    Garg east of portland metro Hold my beer..... watch this Bronze Supporter

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    The question I have is, if you own a stamped FA m16/AR-15 lower receiver, and are in good standing with the NFA laws, blah blah, can you attach a short barrel to it, or do you also have to have a separate stamp for the SBR part?

    Sorry if this has been answered before, I could not find it...:oops:
     
  2. SCARed

    SCARed Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Once a machine gun always a machine gun. It trumps all other designations. You can do anything you want to it. SBR away.
     
  3. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    But if it's suppressed--even integral----(MP5-SD) it takes a second stamp for the can, correct?
     
  4. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    That was my understanding, but I got the info second hand.
     
  5. IronMonster

    IronMonster Washington Opinionated Member Diamond Supporter

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    I am no expert, but my understanding is the suppressor is its own firearm as far as the feds are concerned, I suspect that if the machine gun in question was orginally built with an integral suppressor from the manufacturer than it would be a one stamp affair? But if you were to modify an existing one it would take a second stamp because you are building a new "firearm" in the form of a suppressor. That is just a guess though. I suspect Scared knows "for real" :D
     
  6. SCARed

    SCARed Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    :rolleyes: I suspect your correct IM. I've never seen anything in the NFA faq's that would address that, nor in any of the other forums I frequent.
     
  7. del_and_bones

    del_and_bones Anchorage, AK Physics Pirate

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    They come up on gunbroker from time to time. The machinegun trumps the SBR but does not blanket for silencers. It's still two stamps. Example: integrally suppressed MP5 with a registered sear pack takes two stamps. There are a few floating around and they pop up on gunbroker from time to time.

    ETA: Here are some guys(who at least claim to own them) discussing the finer points of multi stamp firearms.
    http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=50&t=401591
     
    Last edited: Dec 19, 2015
  8. rdb241

    rdb241 Puyallup Washington Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    But a factory MP5SD, the receiver is registered not a trigger pack. So is that a one stamp affair?
     
  9. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Did a little further research. It appears that at one time the ATF DID do the MP5SD
    on a single stamp--but only for a very short time. Currently it's a 2 stamp deal.
    One for the gun/sear whatever, and one for the integral suppressor.
     
  10. del_and_bones

    del_and_bones Anchorage, AK Physics Pirate

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    Correct. The second sentence hits the nail on the head.

    From the link I provided:
    "There are a lot of 1-stamp SDs out there from the early C2s. Despite the MG and suppressor in one, the suppressors could not be disassembled or removed from the host gun so the ATF allowed them to be single stamp guns. They don't allow this to be done anymore though the originals are still one stamp guns.They're still out there but don't compare to more recent SD conversions."