Washington Pump Shotgun purchase requirements?

Flopsweat · Jan 2, 2020

Alexx1401 said:
It's not the Federal law in question here. You do know some states make guns the Feds say are ok illegal in their state correct? Not sure where anyone would get the idea that states can not make gun laws.
Anyway in this state WA, with a permit you can carry a loaded hand gun in the vehicle. If the state is actually running the checks on these shotguns as a hand gun, not a firearm, then anyone who has a permit (CPL) here could carry one loaded in the vehicle. I have yet to hear an FFL chime in yet that WA is actually running these as hand guns. So anyone who owns one I would make damn sure before carrying it in the car loaded.

Even after. It could turn out that it's only a pistol when it's convenient for whoever's infringing on you at the time.

There's usually only one "sure" way to find out and you don't want to be that guy.

Alexx1401 · Jan 2, 2020

Flopsweat said:
Even after. It could turn out that it's only a pistol when it's convenient for whoever's infringing on you at the time. There's usually only one "sure" way to find out and you don't want to be that guy.

Yep. when these first hit they were it kit form to convert the "Cruiser" shotguns. I thought surely no way in hell this would fly. The original people who found the loop hole warned anyone who built one to carry a letter with it as they were sure there would be some problems. After it looked like it was going to fly Mossy first jumped into this. I have no doubt several states are still trying to decide if they are going to allow these and how they are going to deal with them. I would not want to be the one who has to pay for lawyers first

Flopsweat · Jan 3, 2020

Alexx1401 said:
Yep. when these first hit they were it kit form to convert the "Cruiser" shotguns. I thought surely no way in hell this would fly. The original people who found the loop hole warned anyone who built one to carry a letter with it as they were sure there would be some problems. After it looked like it was going to fly Mossy first jumped into this. I have no doubt several states are still trying to decide if they are going to allow these and how they are going to deal with them. I would not want to be the one who has to pay for lawyers first

They sure are cool but they look scary and therefor must be banned for the sake of... something, something assault weapon of war.

EPS · Jan 3, 2020

Nick Burkhardt said:
Once again my Mother in law in Washington is thinking of jumping off the fence. What are the purchase requirements these days for a Pump Shotgun in Washington? Classes? 4473 plus local BGC? Waiting period? Safe storage? Thanks.

Money and clean background check.

RailwayMan · Jan 4, 2020

Alexx1401 said:
The new checks here do not override the Feds, they are needed on top of the Feds. The Feds can say you are good to go, that does not mean the state will allow the dealer to sell you a gun. This state has had a waiting period for hand guns for so long I can't remember when it went in. was 5 now it's 10 Buis. days. What they are waiting for is the buyers CLEO to say it is ok. Now they added the wait to semi auto rifles too. Again this has nothing to do with the feds. When the feds started the mandatory checks they were doing hand guns for WA as a favor. They told WA they had to set up their own. We could wave the wait with a permit. The Feds gave up and told WA no more. So you still have a Federal check on all guns. After that you have the state hoops to jump through.

Wonder what the impact is on individuals who move in from out-of-state with a large collection of these "quasi-legal" firearms? Don't ask; don't tell?

EPS · Jan 4, 2020

RailwayMan said:
Wonder what the impact is on individuals who move in from out-of-state with a large collection of these "quasi-legal" firearms? Don't ask; don't tell?

Yep no need for you to report any firearm .
That you bring from another state .
AR15 and other Simi auto guns are not illegal in WA YET.

Alexx1401 · Jan 4, 2020

RailwayMan said:
Wonder what the impact is on individuals who move in from out-of-state with a large collection of these "quasi-legal" firearms? Don't ask; don't tell?

Good question on the semi auto rifles that are now all assault weapons. For now I am sure nothing. State has not got the time or people to run around and try to do anything. Same with all of us who already had these, has to be millions of them. For now the idea was just aimed at buying one. With a law so poorly written its almost a joke. Many people find out weekly about this new law that never had a clue. When they go to buy a Ruger 10/22 and find out there is now a waiting period and they have to have a certificate and such. Shows what the real problem is, that so many who own guns have no idea this law even went in yet. :s0054:

awshoot · Jan 4, 2020

Alexx1401 said:
Good question on the semi auto rifles that are now all assault weapons. ...

As EPS noted above, nothing. You are not required to register anything (yet) brought in from another state -- I'm not even aware of a process to do that. WA's registration system for pistols and semi-auto rifles is ONLY applied at the point of sale when in addition to the Federal form, you fill out a state form that the Department of Licensing stores in a database.

There is legislation in the works to create a registration system with the State Patrol for certain types of commonly owned semi-auto rifles, the types responsible for the least amount of crime, but as of right now, if you bring 'em in from another state, WA doesn't know about them and has no mechanism in place to force you to identify yourself. Let's hope it stays that way.

If you are thinking about buying a pistol, buy it before you move here.

If someone is looking at this thread post July 1, 2020, all that said above may have been legislatively changed and you should check the laws. This is the chapter on Firearms: Chapter 9.41 RCW: FIREARMS AND DANGEROUS WEAPONS

RailwayMan · Jan 4, 2020

Alexx1401 said:
Good question on the semi auto rifles that are now all assault weapons. For now I am sure nothing. State has not got the time or people to run around and try to do anything. Same with all of us who already had these, has to be millions of them. For now the idea was just aimed at buying one. With a law so poorly written its almost a joke. Many people find out weekly about this new law that never had a clue. When they go to buy a Ruger 10/22 and find out there is now a waiting period and they have to have a certificate and such. Shows what the real problem is, that so many who own guns have no idea this law even went in yet.

Moved to Oregon years ago to avoid this when we first suspected it was coming. Now, decades later, Oregon is going down the same socialist road toward ill-advised attempts at total confiscation endlessly continue ... on and on and one without end.