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Perhaps the nuclear deal with Iran is not so sweet...

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by ATCclears, Nov 26, 2013.

  1. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal | Washington Free Beacon

    Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Iranian officials say that the White House is misleading the public about the details of an interim nuclear agreement reached over the weekend in Geneva.

    Iran and Western nations including the United States came to an agreement on the framework for an interim deal late Saturday night in Geneva. The deal has yet to be implemented

    The White House released a multi-page fact sheet containing details of the draft agreement shortly after the deal was announced.

    However, Iranian foreign ministry official on Tuesday rejected the White House’s version of the deal as “invalid” and accused Washington of releasing a factually inaccurate primer that misleads the American public.

    “What has been released by the website of the White House as a fact sheet is a one-sided interpretation of the agreed text in Geneva and some of the explanations and words in the sheet contradict the text of the Joint Plan of Action, and this fact sheet has unfortunately been translated and released in the name of the Geneva agreement by certain media, which is not true,” Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Marziyeh Afkham told the Iranian press on Tuesday.

    Afkham and officials said that the White House has “modified” key details of the deal and released their own version of the agreement in the fact sheet.

    Iran’s right to enrich uranium, the key component in a nuclear weapon, is fully recognized under the draft released by Tehran.

    “This comprehensive solution would enable Iran to fully enjoy its right to nuclear energy for peaceful purposes under the relevant articles of the NPT in conformity with its obligations therein,” the agreement reads, according to a copy released to Iranian state-run media.

    “This comprehensive solution would involve a mutually defined enrichment programme with practical limits and transparency measures to ensure the peaceful nature of the programme,” the Iranian draft reads. “This comprehensive solution would constitute an integrated whole where nothing is agreed until everything is agreed.”

    Iran’s objection to the deal as presented in the fact sheet raises new concerns about final stage talks meant to ensure that the deal is implemented in the next few weeks.

    The White House confirmed to the Washington Free Beacon on Monday that the final details of the plan have yet to be worked out, meaning that Iran is not yet beholden to a six month freeze its nuclear activities.

    “Technical details to implement the Joint Plan of Action must be finalized before the terms of the Plan begin,” a senior administration official told the Free Beacon. “The P5+1 and Iran are working on what the timeframe is.”

    The White House could not provide additional details on the timeframe when approached by the Free Beacon on Tuesday.

    As the details are finalized, Iran will have the ability to continue its most controversial enrichment program. This drew criticism from proponents of tough nuclear restrictions.

    “The six month clock should have started early Sunday morning,” said former Ambassador Mark Wallace, the CEO of United Against a Nuclear Iran (UANI). “If this is a serious agreement, the P5+1 must ensure that these negotiations do not become a tool for Iran to further increase its enrichment abilities.”

    Christians United for Israel (CUFI) Executive Director David Brog said he fears that the White House may have been “played by the Iranians.”

    “This may prove to be yet another worrisome sign that the Obama Administration was played by the Iranians,” Brog told the Free Beacon in a statement. “Their concessions were either illusory or meaningless, while ours will resuscitate the Iranian economy.”

    The White House said in its fact sheet on the deal that it could release up to $7 billion dollars to Iran during the first phase of the agreement.

    The United States additionally agreed to suspend “certain sanctions on gold and precious metals, Iran’s auto sector, and Iran’s petrochemical exports, potentially providing Iran approximately $1.5 billion in revenue,” according to the now disputed fact sheet.

    Iran could earn another $4.2 billion in oil revenue under the deal.

    Another “$400 million in governmental tuition assistance” could also be “transferred from restricted Iranian funds directly to recognized educational institutions in third countries to defray the tuition costs of Iranian students,” according to the White House.

    While Iranian foreign ministry officials did not specify their precise disagreements with the White House, they insisted that “the Iranian delegation was much rigid and laid much emphasis on the need for this accuracy.”
  2. Fast Eddie

    Fast Eddie Vancouver Well-Known Member

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    "if you like your enriched uranium, you can keep your enriched uranium, period."
    ~Jay Leno
  3. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Well the MasterBaster Obama just opened the gate to global Armageddon.
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  4. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Iran is no threat. How can any rational person believe they are? We start wars and occupations every decade based on lies. Iran hasn't started a war in over 200 years. It is time to put the brainwashing, paranoia, and propaganda aside.

    Israel, the country that taught us how to be great at performing invasions and occupations for their benefit, has 300+ nukes. Does anyone really believe Iran is still a threat? Fire up those brain cells! Don't be told what to think; think for yourself.

    The whole 'nuke' issue is just a smokescreen to stop Iran from trading away from the dollar. Period. Same as Iraq. Same as Libya. Same old song and dance. Come on, this is kindergarten stuff.

    These same mindless diatribes are what will eventually take the 2A away; fear mongering; irrational emotions - and ZERO thinking. Turn off the boob tube. They don't call it TV 'programming' for nothing.

    The greatest existential threat to Israel is "ISRAEL" not Iran - YouTube
  5. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    What are we to expect from this regime? When it comes to dealing with Iran, dinglebarry will prove to be worse than Jimmy Carter.
  6. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Iran Announces Development of Ballistic Missile Technology

    Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif smiles and laughs as he speaks to the media at the International Conference Centre of Geneva, Sunday, Nov. 24, 2013, after the interim deal was concluded.

    Obama continues to look like the fool he is, they are playing him like a fiddle.
  7. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps, but Burt's observation may also be correct such that current negotiations are nothing more than a way to let things escalate and then bring in the war machine.

    Remember Sadam rolling into Kuwait?... then the US brought the hammer down. Did they encourage him to do this behind the scenes? We may never know.

  8. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    Noisy Burt is 100% correct on this one.:laugh:

    There is also another issue at play here, and it is a lot more important.
    Has anyone heard this agree described as a treaty?
    I certainly have not.
    Is this administration of the belief that they can just make agreements with other nations and not have to have the Senate vote on it???
  9. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    Iran sits on the straits of Hormuz. The big threat is their willingness to attempt to block those straights through with a big percentage of oil passes. Dismissing them conventionally is being ignorant. What ever terrorist group of nation that can build a dirty bomb will. And they will use it. The big question is what are the NATO countries willing to do make sure that doesn't happen. Blaming Israel just sounds like warmed over nazi propaganda

    Brutus out
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