Oregon Oregon HB4145 - M114 Implementation bill for 2026 Session

[j_tour]

Actually, I didn't know this, despite doing my best to keep my myopic self on target with the sh$tstorm of this puke coming out of Salem.

(Yes, my shooting glasses are prescription...it's not a problem....am near-sighted but not Mr Magoo exactly.).

Good. Yeah, well, mine wasn't written too good, and made a grammatical error, but WTF difference does it make?

Neither the boot-licking nazis nor the bubblegum-eating fairies are going to fade one way or the other.

I just want to not have to cower in shame or fear of getting curb-stomped by some thug with a robe or a badge on because I have some "high-capacity" handgun magazines.

 

[1911Fanatic]

I submitted testimony.

 

[PiratePast40]

4145 has a carveout for retired law enforcement. I was curious about this since I've heard several retirees talk about qualifications and one of the pro 4145 witnesses mentioned federal law.

Looked into it myself and did find the federal law and wording from the Oregon Department of Justice: DPSST policy

Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act (LEOSA) HR 218
On July 22, 2004, President George W. Bush signed into legislation a federal law which exempts law enforcement officers from state laws prohibiting carrying concealed firearms. On October 12, 2010, President Barack Obama signed the Law Enforcement Safety Improvement Act improving the ability of retired officers to comply with the documents required when carrying a firearm under this law and making other modifications to existing law.

HOWEVER, this law has nothing to do with magazine capacity.

 

[One of Many]

4145 has a carveout for retired law enforcement. I was curious about this since I've heard several retirees talk about qualifications and one of the pro 4145 witnesses mentioned federal law.

Looked into it myself and did find the federal law and wording from the Oregon Department of Justice: DPSST policy

Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act (LEOSA) HR 218
On July 22, 2004, President George W. Bush signed into legislation a federal law which exempts law enforcement officers from state laws prohibiting carrying concealed firearms. On October 12, 2010, President Barack Obama signed the Law Enforcement Safety Improvement Act improving the ability of retired officers to comply with the documents required when carrying a firearm under this law and making other modifications to existing law.

HOWEVER, this law has nothing to do with magazine capacity.

I thought it was about exemptions for law enforcement regarding reciprocity laws while carrying in another state.

 

[arakboss]

We have another 24 hours or so to submit written testimony. You can read what others have written here.

Submit testimony here.

You can use the form and write it out there or submit a pdf. It doesn't matter which way you do it, the important thing is to get our voices heard. Everytown is the main driver behind all of these bills and is a powerful enemy with taxpayer funded grants. Don't let them win easily.

We blew up the system.

 

[PiratePast40]

Keep an eye on the bill schedule to see the progress and when it goes to the senate. Here's the link to the bill in OLIS.

 

[Zoolander]

Keep an eye on the bill schedule to see the progress and when it goes to the senate. Here's the link to the bill in OLIS.

I was looking at that last night. What do you think the odds are they last minute don't push it to 2028 and instead implement March 2026? Anything at this point is speculative but you seem to know this arena decently.

 

[nammac]

I thought the short sessions were limited to budget and finance needs….

 

[Will_White]

I thought the short sessions were limited to budget and finance needs….

It's an emergency /s

 

[CamoDeafie]

I thought the short sessions were limited to budget and finance needs….

Not if they declare "emergency" in bills

 

[nammac]

Everything's an emergency in Oregon. The only true emergency is a constitutional emergency

 

[PiratePast40]

I thought the short sessions were limited to budget and finance needs….

Officially no. Peter Courtney, past Senate Leader, had a policy that only budget bills were introduced in the short sessions, but that went out the window when he passed and the Dems became more militant.

 

[PiratePast40]

I was looking at that last night. What do you think the odds are they last minute don't push it to 2028 and instead implement March 2026? Anything at this point is speculative but you seem to know this arena decently.

I wouldn't think so but anything is possible.

 

[Savage Jav]

I think pointing out that now might not be a good time to send tax payer dollars to set up mandatory classes and more BGC at a time when the state is already facing a defecate. Many people are tired of more taxes (see the recent gas tax bill they tried to push and enough signature were gathered for a vote).

Coming at it as purely financial might convince more people who otherwise don't have a dog in this fight.

 

[PiratePast40]

I think pointing out that now might not be a good time to send tax payer dollars to set up mandatory classes and more BGC at a time when the state is already facing a defecate. Many people are tired of more taxes (see the recent gas tax bill they tried to push and enough signature were gathered for a vote).

Coming at it as purely financial might convince more people who otherwise don't have a dog in this fight.

State Police had $35 million to spend on setting up a permit system several years ago. Will be interesting to see if they receive more $$ on top of what they already have.

 

[ronin223]

I think pointing out that now might not be a good time to send tax payer dollars to set up mandatory classes and more BGC at a time when the state is already facing a defecate. Many people are tired of more taxes (see the recent gas tax bill they tried to push and enough signature were gathered for a vote).

Coming at it as purely financial might convince more people who otherwise don't have a dog in this fight.

Did you mean defecate as in releasing feces

Or

Did you mean deficit as in a lack of money

Because both words work in that sentence

 

[RifleVania]

Tell you what, if nothing else this whole debacle has taught me a lot about how laws do or don't pass and what the path to either one looks like. Way back when M114 initially passed, I would never have guessed we'd be here in 2026 and still uncertain on its status, or that we'd go through multiple periods of online retailers changing their stance on shipping mags over 10rds to Oregon. Just figured it would be implemented shortly after and we'd be boned until something big was put into place to challenge/undo it.

 

[gearhead]

And how they've spent that $35 million over the past few years.

 

[Midnite]

I submitted my testimony several days back and emailed by reps. Waiting to see how the measure against 114 is doing with signatures.

 

[Zoolander]

The work session scheduled for today has been rescheduled to Feb 16th.