I've got a sig p230 in the vault. I looked them up on GB today to see what they are going for. Not a single bid on them. Hmm. So I thought id give a shout out for this not so well known gun. First, they were discontinued in 1996 so you wont find a bunch for sale. They now call it a P232 and they changed a few things. I have a P230 "SL" for stainless. It also comes in blued. The p230 is chambered in 9mm kurtz (.380). It is a very comfortable every day carry gun for IWB carry. It is a steel frame gun, vs most of the new .380 you see on the market made from polymer. Most important, for me, this gun acquires target very quickly and shoots fleas off gnats. Also in 8 years I cant remember a single FTF. Only negative is the euro mag release. Negative for some anyway. I like the euro style mag. I paid $400 for mine 8 years back. It was nearly new/slightly used when I bought it. You can still buy these guns for close to that same price today. I think this is a undervalued gun. I certainly wouldn't give mine up for what they sell for today. I think $600-$700 would be more reasonable. So if you see one out there in the 350-450 range and like how it feels in your hand, you cant go wrong with the P230. Couple other things to note since Ive done a little more research: The SL "stainless" model has a steel frame. The blued model has an aluminum alloy frame so it may be lighter weight than my SL. They claim the P232 is the same gun, with the addition of the firing pin block safety, different grips and slide serrations are vertical over slanted. I dont want to steer a person away from the 232. I just don't have experience with that model. It looks like you can get a 232 with tritium sights. I have seen some of the older 232's have slanted slide serrations like the 230. The later production went to a vertical serration. I prefer the look of the slanted serrations and the P230 grips. It looks like on average the P232 gets more money than the P230.