Obtaining a FFL?

[Tlock]

Maybe I'll just keep on doing what I'm doing then…. lol.

Or wait tell i open a store front in stayton

 

[1775usmc]

Or wait tell i open a store front in stayton

For sure!

 

[Belial]

This is what I have experienced but YMMV. A gunsmith can return items directly back to owners without a BGC currently. If you take work direct there is an advantage for your customers in avoiding a BGC and fees. If a FFL sends it to another FFL it is going to take a BGC to get it back to the owner by one of them. More paperwork, more time, more money.

The one thing I would say on getting an FFL would be looking into are any zoning restrictions where you plan on doing business.

 

[kirkcdl]

Why would you need a FFL to conduct what is basically a repair only business?

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Why would you need a FFL to conduct what is basically a repair only business?

In order to keep someone else's firearm over night or longer , even if you are simply doing repairs or other work on it...
A FFL is needed in order to keep from running a foul of the law.
Otherwise it is considered an illegal transfer of a firearm.
Andy

 

[kirkcdl]

In order to keep someone else's firearm over night or longer , even if you are simply doing repairs or other work on it...
A FFL is needed in order to keep from running a foul of the law.
Otherwise it is considered an illegal transfer of a firearm.
Andy

Thank you

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Thank you

You are very welcome.

Please note that I do not agree with this firearm law...just pointing it out.
Andy

 

[Will_White]

Why would you need a FFL to conduct what is basically a repair only business?

If we weren't on the Left Coast it wouldn't be an issue for in-state work, but as Andy said the universal BGC laws make it illegal and federal laws make it illegal for out-of-state work

 

[dangerranger60]

That's gunna be difficult due the fact I have a full time job working 50-60 hours a week. Which would also throw a wrench into being present to take deliveries. And yea…. I'm not a huge fan of being public out of my residence.

As a service provider you can do business strictly by mail or common carrier without any public coming to your home. Put that in your business plan. You can use a shipping service like a post office box but at a private business. it keeps people from just showing up. and it has someone there during business hours to sign for packages. Others can legally handle the packages as long as they don't open them. they have not legally taken possession until they open the package.
I ran a custom bullet business that way. no public in and out of my home. On my Federal application I listed my business hours as "By appointment only" and then had to explain that during my in-person interview. I pointed out to the agent that I would be available during business hours to take their phone calls and that they were welcome to call. This was enough to satisfy them.
I don't think you can sell guns with this arrangement. but as a manufacture or a service provider it works. DR

 

[Belial]

As a service provider you can do business strictly by mail or common carrier without any public coming to your home. Put that in your business plan. You can use a shipping service like a post office box but at a private business. it keeps people from just showing up. and it has someone there during business hours to sign for packages. Others can legally handle the packages as long as they don't open them. they have not legally taken possession until they open the package.
I ran a custom bullet business that way. no public in and out of my home. On my Federal application I listed my business hours as "By appointment only" and then had to explain that during my in-person interview. I pointed out to the agent that I would be available during business hours to take their phone calls and that they were welcome to call. This was enough to satisfy them.
I don't think you can sell guns with this arrangement. but as a manufacture or a service provider it works. DR

Not sure that would be my preferred chain of custody for firearms albeit frames, but possibly a good option...If you have a separate shipping address on your FFL if has to meet all the requirements that the FFL premises would need to meet including approval from the property owner. Maybe a non issue, but if this option is part of your plan you might want to vet out a location first to make sure the property owner is GTG. The more you vet up front the easier things will go with your application process. It isn't hard to muddle through, but it takes a bit of legwork. Routing for ya 1775usmc!!!

 

[1775usmc]

Not sure that would be my preferred chain of custody for firearms albeit frames, but possibly a good option...If you have a separate shipping address on your FFL if has to meet all the requirements that the FFL premises would need to meet including approval from the property owner. Maybe a non issue, but if this option is part of your plan you might want to vet out a location first to make sure the property owner is GTG. The more you vet up front the easier things will go with your application process. It isn't hard to muddle through, but it takes a bit of legwork. Routing for ya 1775usmc!!!

I hate the government so I really don't want to deal with them. Part of my hesitation of getting a FFL.

 

[Tlock]

I hate the government so I really don't want to deal with them. Part of my hesitation of getting a FFL.

Just cause they made you eat crayons?

 

[1775usmc]

Just cause they made you eat crayons?

That was one of the positives….

 

[Nutty4Guns]

I've done it. Pretty easy and straightforward.

Talk to your local ATF office. They are actually very, very helpful with the whole process and will help out every way they can.

And they didn't shoot your dog, or you don't have a dog?

 

[roseburger]

And they didn't shoot your dog, or you don't have a dog?

Don't worry. They'll shoot your neighbors dog if you don't have one.

 

[CountryGent]

Why would you need a FFL to conduct what is basically a repair only business?

BATFE has relevant gunsmith license FAQs here, should it be of interest.

 

[Nosferatu]

And they didn't shoot your dog, or you don't have a dog?

Everyone knows you bring a stand-in dog, not your own.

 

[dangerranger60]

I hate the government so I really don't want to deal with them. Part of my hesitation of getting a FFL.

The field agents I have worked with over the years have all been stand up people. not at all like the bureaucrats in their offices. DR

 

[orygun]

Everyone knows you bring a stand-in dog, not your own.

I thought the dog brought me? Who's party is it, anyway?