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NYC mayor probes Arizona gun-show sales

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by deen_ad, Jan 31, 2011.

  1. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Story here

    Seems Bloomberg isn't content to just villify his neighbors! Now he's sending agents to make buys at gun shows in AZ!!

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  2. zeezee

    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    That piece of excrement needs to keep him and his stench in new york. Can't wait till the people of that state flush him down the drain and be done with him once and for all!
     
  3. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    MSN has removed the link from their site but the one I posted still works.

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  4. drew

    drew OR Well-Known Member

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    I assume Bloomberg did this after eliminating crime in the city and gold plating their sidewalks. Otherwise it's a waste of money.
     
  5. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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    But this piece of dirt can let his city crews slide on not clearing the streets of snow and letting a few of his own citizens die as a result. Not to mention his own words of capitalizing on the Arizona shooting, what a piece of crap.
     
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    zeezee nowheresville Member

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    Breaking the law is not a loophole.

    Bloomberg sends people to buy guns out of state and it’s showcased as a loophole.

    An Ohio man tries to sell some guns out of state and he’s looking at Federal PMITA Prison time.

    Laws, like taxes, are for the little people.

    http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2011/01/remember.html
     
  7. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    Imagine what he'd do if he was President.

    I read this & was really ticked-off. What do Arizona gun laws have to do with N.Y.?? Nothing. This guy needs to mind his own business.

    Were these "investigators" residents of Arizona? Because, I didn't think you could buy handguns in other states FTF if you weren't a resident. Did they break the law?
     
  8. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    According to the story they were AZ residents and it appears that no laws were broken by the sellers nor the buyers.
     
  9. Glock32

    Glock32 Marion county, or Active Member

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    How can he justify using his time (taxes) and money (taxes) to look at gun sales 2000 miles from his jurisdiction. this is an abuse of position and misuse of funds, sounds criminal on his end.
     
  10. Sun195

    Sun195 Pugetropolis, WA Well-Known Member

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    An early version of this story said that he actually sent N.Y. cops to do this; then a later version I saw said they were private investigators; now they're Arizona residents. I'm willing to chalk it up to "media didn't get the story right", but I don't like it all the same.
     
  11. Spad

    Spad Kennewick,WA, the desert side Active Member

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    The guy wants to be president and he will get his name in the lime light anyway he can. The people of New York City elected him, he got the no third term overturned, they love him. He is a scumbag of the first order. Wonder what would happen if someone from Arizona went to New York and bought a gun off the street, probably be arrested and thrown in the stockade for a long time. The anti -gun campaign has started, you better believe it. Spad
     
  12. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    So if they were AZ residents and they were legal to purchase and they then purchased WHAT THE **** is the problem???? them making the statement to the seller who would have been a private citizen that they probably wouldn't pass a background check?

    So Bloom is going on about something that in reality had no basis what so ever.
     
  13. 8ball

    8ball WA Quit talkin' and start chalking!

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    Yes, that is a problem because the sellers are breaking the law at that point. They have a clear reason to believe the buyer has a criminal record, mental problems or the like. It's no different from that private seller in WA who was busted on tape saying he didn't care if the buyers were felons etc. People like that are no friend of gun owners.

    You may not like the law, but ignoring it isn't the solution.
     
  14. enjr4

    enjr4 Renton, WA Active Member

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    You know that "we" don't know the whole story.
    There are a bunch of us who are put on "delay" when we buy a handgun. Not denied, but delayed.
    So if you are not real bright, you might say something stupid to a private seller (like, are you a private seller? Good because I can't pass the instant check). And then they go on to explain their dumb remark. In this state we have two ways to verify our status and complete the sale. A valid CPL and membership in WAC association come to mind. I do not know enough about state laws in Arizona.

    The political spin folks only pass on the part of the story that makes their case. What is the real story?

    Ed
     
  15. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    You must have missed the part where a retired FBI agent says it's "It's not a prosecutable offense"

    "Jim Cavanaugh, a retired agent for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, where he was in charge of the Nashville division, said he didn't believe the sales described by the mayor were, in fact, illegal.

    "It's not a prosecutable offense" because the purchasers were not truly felons, minors or drug abusers and because they didn't tell the sellers definitively that they were, Cavanaugh said.

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  16. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Bloomberg needs to stay in NY city and deal with his own problems and stay the beep out of the rest of the country, he needs to remember he's just a Mayor of one city and I didn't elect the guy so we don't want him interfering with the rest of the country.

    Someone needs to send Bloomberg a map of New York City, he seems to be lost....
     
  17. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Today The Columbian printed PART of the story.

    The part they censored is:

    So most of what shows Bloomberg in a bad light goes unreported.

    I thought that the news was to be reported and not censored!! Shows just how left wing The Columbian is. I did send the publisher an email noting that this was "Yellow Journalism" at it's worst!!

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  18. Scott

    Scott Battle Ground Well-Known Member

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    He used all his own money.

    On the flip side if you were selling a gun to somebody and they told you they would not pass a background check would you sell it?
     
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    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I read this in the paper today, and I laughed, then I was ill.

    Two words,
    douche bag.

    You just wasted 100k
     
  20. billdeserthills

    billdeserthills Cave Creek, Arizony Well-Known Member

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    I saw a couple of odd folks at that show,
    They wanted to know what they needed to buy a gun...BTW busiest Gun Show for quite awhile,
    if having these guys around does that, count me in!
     
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