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FYI - from "Across the Fence with Mark Meckler

On December 15, 2011 at approximately 5:15 a.m., I was at LaGuardia International airport preparing to check in for a flight out of the city. During a routine check-in, I requested a firearms declaration form from the ticket agent. It was my intent to declare and check my unloaded firearm.

I purchased this firearm legally, and I have a valid concealed carry permit for it issued in California. The unloaded gun was locked inside a TSA-approved travel case, and the case was locked inside my checked luggage. I carry the firearm for my personal safety, having received numerous threats due to my role in the Tea Party Patriots. I have checked this firearm at airports dozens of times before, all across the country.

As I traveled through LaGuardia that morning, I passed TSA signs telling me I had the right to check this unloaded firearm in my luggage, and that I am required by law to declare the firearm to the ticketing agent. This is exactly what I did.
The ticketing agent provided me with the declaration form, and I signed it and returned it to her. She advised me that she would need to call Port Authority police to inspect. This is not unusual when traveling with a firearm. Procedures vary from airport to airport, from airline to airline, and even from day to day, and as a law-abiding citizen, I have always been happy to cooperate.

Unfortunately, that day, I didn’t realize that I was about to cross paths with New York City’s anti-Second Amendment stance. Upon showing my case and the weapon to the officer who arrived on the scene, and after a few brief questions, she advised me that she was placing me under arrest for violating New York City’s firearms laws.

To say that I was stunned would be an understatement. I am from a law enforcement family. My mother is a retired correctional officer, and I have spent my life around folks from the law enforcement community. I have always considered myself a law-abiding citizen. I have never been arrested before. I have never been in police custody. I can never say those things again. On December 15th, 2011, I was arrested, handcuffed at the ticket counter, and taken to a waiting squad car for transport to the Port Authority Police station at LaGuardia.

I was subsequently transferred, in handcuffs, to the Queens Central booking facility in New York City. I was charged with felony possession of a firearm with intent to do harm. I spent the day in Queens…in jail.

It was a nightmare that I can scarcely describe to you. Until you have felt the handcuffs on your wrists, and until you have heard that cell door close behind you, it is impossible to understand what it means to actually lose your liberty. And since that day, my liberty has been at stake, and because of that threat, based upon the advice of counsel, I’ve been unable to publicly speak about this case. Today the silence ends.

I am pleased to announce that the criminal case against me has been dropped. Although I was originally charged with a violent felony, the case against me was resolved with a plea to “disorderly conduct. ” Disorderly Conduct is not a felony or a misdemeanor, or even a crime. The facts underlying my plea are that I declared a legally purchased, properly licensed and unloaded firearm at an airport counter. Apparently, much to my surprise, in New York City, it is considered “disorderly conduct” to exercise your constitutionally guaranteed, Second Amendment rights.

Strangely, now that the case against me is over, the authorities refuse to return my firearm. There is no law that allows them to confiscate a weapon in this manner. They simply say “no” when you ask for your weapon back. This is apparently their “policy.” It is done regularly in New York. This is government robbery. Not only is New York City anti-Second Amendment rights, but they are depriving citizens of their legally owned property. My lawyer has advised me that I can attempt to pursue the return of my firearm, but that to do so would cost me more than the firearm is worth. I am not alone in facing this tyranny. It has happened to hundreds of people in the New York metro area. My lawyer, Brian Stapleton, has handled over 400 of these cases himself, so he is an expert on the subject.

While the end of this case is the end of a horrible nightmare for my family and I, it is not the end of this fight. It is just the beginning. Since the original incident, I have received more emails, phone calls, texts and tweets of support than you can possibly imagine. To those people, I want to say heart-felt thanks on behalf of my entire family. We have come to know that we are not alone in this particular fight. Apparently, this happens to hundreds of people per year in New York City. And New York City is not alone in its attack on our rights. This sort of Constitutional abuse, Second Amendment and otherwise, is taking place all over the nation. And we as citizens must stand against it. We must protect our rights, or we will lose them.

Many of you know me as someone who is willing to stand and fight for self-governance in this country. I’m no politician, and I’m not from a powerful or connected family. I’m an average American citizen. And I stand shoulder to shoulder with millions of other Americans who, despite enormous obstacles, and despite the politicians and ruling elite who oppose us, intend to return this country to the bounds of the United States Constitution.

The politicians and ruling elite will try, but we must not let them label us Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal. We cannot let them make us fight against each other. Too much is at stake. We the People are losing our sovereignty to the government. We the People, must stand and fight for our inalienable rights.

I’m not alone in this fight. There are so many laws, that no one can possibly know or understand them. We are all affected. From the inner city to the farm, from the heartland of America to the coasts, people are under pressure from a government that no longer serves them. From my home in California, to the farmland of Kansas… from the small towns of South Carolina to the metropolis of New York, every year the legislatures pass thousands of laws and regulations that do not serve the people.

The legislators don’t read the bills they pass, and even if they did, they couldn’t understand them. Our criminal justice system is terribly broken, and no longer serves the people and the communities it was intended to serve. Our regulatory system is broken; small businesses and the communities that rely on them crushed under the weight of unnecessary regulation.

We are, step by step, destroying the heart of America. And we are doing so because we are not governing ourselves according to the Constitution. It’s up to us…the People.

It’s time to stand for self-governance. It is time to stand for the plain meaning of the Constitution. Every word of the Constitution is important, and we must fight for them all. We must fight for every inch of this country, from the inner city to the smallest rural town. We are, all of us, first and foremost, American citizens. We’ve always governed ourselves…and we always intend to. And we’ve always been willing to stand when freedom is at stake. It is time to stand…time for all of us, every race, every religion, every gender, every American to stand up and fight for liberty and take responsibility for governing ourselves.

No one should ever have to go through what my family has been through, simply for exercising a fundamental right, specifically enumerated in the United States Constitution. I am committed to making sure no one does. And I’m willing to work with anyone…anyone, who agrees that it’s time for the people to govern themselves once again.

Will we as citizens fight for our inalienable right to govern ourselves, or will we quietly allow ourselves to be “governed” into submission by a ruling elite, disconnected from our citizens and our communities? Only history will tell, but I intend to fight.

(Note: Every law enforcement officer I dealt with through the process was polite and professional. They are not to blame for NYC’s unconstitutional or tyrannical behavior. From my experience, they seem to be good people, just doing a difficult job.)

NYC Gun Charges Dropped. Now I Can Speak Out. | Across the Fence with Mark Meckler
 
If everything that Meckler states is correct, and there's no reason to doubt it...this is what's wrong with LE and America as we are living it today.

What's one of Murphy's laws.....no good deed goes unpunished.
 
Great reason NOT to ever travel to NYC, and I will make sure all my air travel does not have a plane change anywhere near NYC.
 
Great reason NOT to ever travel to NYC, and I will make sure all my air travel does not have a plane change anywhere near NYC.

Good reason not to do business with any business that is in NYC.

I do not agree with Meckler's statement that "Every law enforcement officer I dealt with through the process was polite and professional. They are not to blame for NYC's unconstitutional or tyrannical behavior.".
If they are enforcing an unconstitutional law then they are to blame. The have the duty to the public first. What if the legislature passed a law that police do not need search warrants to search your house and if you refuse to let them in, they can set your house on fire?? I know it is a ridiculous scenario, but wouldn't we expect the police to refuse to carry out such laws?
 
As far as I have researched, in talking with a lot of LEO's in other states...most have discretion in the action they take.

It appears Meckler followed the requirements...then still got slammed??? :huh:
 
As far as I have researched, in talking with a lot of LEO's in other states...most have discretion in the action they take.

It appears Meckler followed the requirements...then still got slammed??? :huh:

He followed Federal requirements, disclosing local violation in the process. Got slammed for ignorance.

Makes me wonder though, since he got arrested when leaving NYC with a weapon without hurting anybody, how could they have added "intent to harm" there ? Logic kind of fails...
 
Depends on the language of the law...could be when that particular law is violated, its just implied.

Not saying its right, but there are some law written that way.

Perhaps that's why they dropped the charges then, since in order to charge a person with such violation there had to be evidence of intent.
 
"(Note: Every law enforcement officer I dealt with through the process was polite and professional. They are not to blame for NYC’s unconstitutional or tyrannical behavior. From my experience, they seem to be good people, just doing a difficult job.) "

And that proves he has learned nothing from this incident.
 
I wonder why, when something like this happens, the vicim doesn't go to the ACLU. I know they defend a lot of silly cases, but their intent is to protect civil liberty.

MSgt Don
 
I wonder why, when something like this happens, the vicim doesn't go to the ACLU. I know they defend a lot of silly cases, but their intent is to protect civil liberty.

MSgt Don

For ACLU to intervene there has to be a violation of some rights. The only right in this situation possibly being violated is confiscation of a firearm without a compensation. But that's too small of a fish for anybody to fry.
 
But, since gun ownership is a private right, protected by The Constitution then the ACLU should follow through and fight for him. After all, that's what the ACLU claims they do!!

So far all we know is outright ban on handguns is unconstitutional, as well as the requirement to keep firearms inoperable. Both DC and Chicago have registration requirements after their bans got overturned. In fact Chicago is still being sued over shooting range ban (they require training for gun ownership), but nothing in terms of registration at the moment. Bottom line - no 2A violation in this case.
 

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