Last Friday, I wrote a long series of posts about the Finicum video and related events. It's on page 98 of the big thread: https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threads/harney-county-burns-in-the-news.211537/page-98 I wrote it because I was laid up with a lame knee, reading online, and I couldn't believe how many people were jumping on the anti-cop conspiracy bandwagon, looking for any means imaginable to call this a bad shoot. That thread is up to 111 pages now. Holy cow! There is no logical discourse, only emotional response, uninformed opinion, and fallacy. Ad hominem attack and head-in-the-sand are the apparent favorites. The good news is that NWFA is not the only prominent gun board plagued by this problem. The bad news is that this kind of thing makes gun forums, gun communities, and gun-owners in general look like a bunch of crazy people, because the press and the non-gun-owning public cannot distinguish between "normal people" NWFA members & "other" NWFA members. Even worse, they don't care to try. It is much better for the MSM anti-gun mission if they are able to portray all NWFA members as crazy people based on the never-ending spew of a vocal minority of members. I got a PM from a long-time member here who warned me that "NWFA" isn't what it used to be, and that my posts would not be well received. This wasn't anyone I knew, just some random guy. I have a theory: The members of this board are a silent majority of real people plus a very vocal minority of "other" people. Real people don't have the time or inclination to argue with "other" people online, but they might vote in a poll if one was available. So here you go! Why should you vote? Because the "other" people don't know that they are a minority. They post non-stop and no one ever says anything different, so they just keep going. If this poll comes out 80-20 in favor of "good shoot", several good things will happen. The "other" people will go silent, which will be good for your image and reputation here. Members will have their faith in humanity restored by the realization that not everyone here is an anti-cop conspiracy nut. All of this can be accomplished by simple participation in a poll, and it may help shore up the reputation of gun-owners in general. Of course, the other possibility is that NWFA members will swing 80-20 in favor of bad shoot, in which case either the OSP and the FBI admitted that they murdered Finicum on purpose and presented new evidence to support their new claim, or NWFA members are all crazy, or I am an inbred goat. No harm in finding out! A recent thread suggests that Joe is surprised that his board is up to 36,000 members. I wonder how many are active? I wonder how many have gone silent over the years because of that "NWFA is not what it used to be" perspective? I wonder how to invite some back to vote in this poll? If you know someone who went silent, maybe send them a link to this poll. Get them to vote. Take your board back.