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I have the Ruger and the a few G19's plus other Glocks and the PSA version . The Ruger has by far the best out of the box trigger, sights and the RMR capability. I could care less about the trigger group cage swapability. I like the grip frame shape on the Ruger much better.Neither do you. Just like you REALLY don't know if the Ruger is better. It's just your opinion.
Those are great points that you prefer it over the Glock. But it don't mean it's "seriously better". If it can prove years of reliable service, outshoot and generally outlast a Glock then I'd be more inclined to take your side.I have the Ruger and the a few G19's plus other Glocks and the PSA version . The Ruger has by far the best out of the box trigger, sights and the RMR capability. I could care less about the trigger group cage swapability. I like the grip frame shape on the Ruger much better.

Ruger died and released the company of his burdenAren't we supposed to boycott Ruger too? Because Bill Ruger personally believed an "honest" man didn't need more than 10 round mags….
Or was that long enough ago it doesn't matter anymore. Lol.
I love the cycle of bashing and pointing fingers in the gun community. One day their the worst and anti gun and the next their the best.
Gaston dies and look at where we are. Haha.Ruger died and released the company of his burden
I've never handled either one in real life, but if the clones are accurate to the pattern I greatly prefer the Colt over the Remington. They're just buttery smooth!"Best"....
Is extremely subjective.
I think the best revolver of the so called American Civil War was...
The Colt 1860 Army.
However...
Many folks also think the same of the Remington New Model Army ..
Or what is now called today as the 1858 Remington.
Both are excellent revolvers.
That said...I am right in my statement of the Colt being the best....
Seriously though....
So much ink and cyber space has been wasted on saying what firearm is best...
Most of which is based only on personal likes
Andy
I own both copies of the 1860 Army..and an original Colt from 1868...I've never handled either one in real life, but if the clones are accurate to the pattern I greatly prefer the Colt over the Remington. They're just buttery smooth!
Aren't we supposed to boycott Ruger too? Because Bill Ruger personally believed an "honest" man didn't need more than 10 round mags….
Or was that long enough ago it doesn't matter anymore. Lol.
I love the cycle of bashing and pointing fingers in the gun community. One day their the worst and anti gun and the next their the best.
I doubt it. Generally people aren't negotiating with the left. Like ok, but I want all the new Glocks to be listed as California compliant. I could be wrong but I'm not.I am curious if the V versions will have all the crap on them to qualify for the California market. CLI, etc.
You think they'll all have magazine disconnects, loaded chamber indicators, 10 round mags, ect.I think the V versions will be California compliant
Will this require say, a re-inspection of the new models and a decision made to put them back on the roster?I think the V versions will be California compliant
Yes. It's a $billions market. Not selling in California would be idioticWill this require say, a re-inspection of the new models and a decision made to put them back on the roster?
Eh. More gun owners than we think in CA but they apparently keep voting the same people in over and over.... But if firearm companies simply stopped selling to CA police departments and CA residents...... Maybe that'll light a fire under the police unions and the citizens to actually, I dunno, vote the antigun politicians out, and to repeal the CA level gun laws?Yes. It's a $billions market. Not selling in California would be idiotic
Stop thinking of gun companies as freedom advocates. They make guns, they sell guns. California has put Glock on notice that they will no longer accept guns for sale in the state of California that do not meet their standards so Glock can either change designs to meet those standards or stop selling in California entirely. So what do they do? They do a redesign and sell in California. People gripe about everything . They will grip about the new Glocks. They gripe about the old Glocks. Glocks a privately owned European company. Think "What would HK do" . That'll get you close.Eh. More gun owners than we think in CA but they apparently keep voting the same people in over and over.... But if firearm companies simply stopped selling to CA police departments and CA residents...... Maybe that'll light a fire under the police unions and the citizens to actually, I dunno, vote the antigun politicians out, and to repeal the CA level gun laws?
But no, they (gun companies) need the dollars more than they need the State gun laws to be overturned
Edit. I mean it's not like CA politicians aren't already trying to make it impossible for FFLs to stay in CA other than those that exclusively deal to police departments
I'm just saying forcing CA market to be more flexible would open up millions, if not billion more $$$ in sales, not just to LE agencies. Besides, I've got a $5 here that says CA will still ban Glocks by name except to LE sales even after Glock redesigns thingsStop thinking of gun companies as freedom advocates. They make guns, they sell guns. California has put Glock on notice that they will no longer accept guns for sale in the state of California that do not meet their standards so Glock can either change designs to meet those standards or stop selling in California entirely. So what do they do? They do a redesign and sell in California. People gripe about everything . They will grip about the new Glocks. They gripe about the old Glocks. Glocks a privately owned European company. Think "What would HK do" . That'll get you close.