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"Real Rifle" rounds?
While no cartridge is the best for everything.
The amount of game taken with the .30-30 or .45-70 , I would have thought , to speak for itself.
Both of these I would consider "Real Rifle" rounds.
While today we would not think of the .30-30 as a super fast and long distance round , Old TR himself liked it for just that type of rifle work.
There is a reason why these two rounds are still with us , they work.
Granted times have changed and many great cartridges have come along since the .30-30 and .45-70.
Many of which might be "better."
But to not call them real rifle rounds does them and history a dis-service.
Andy
My grandfather took elk and bear regularly with a .30-30 rifle (not a carbine, but a 24" octagon barreled rifle) he carried around SW Oregon for decades. There was a guy recently who took a bison bull with one shot from a .30-30 and it dropped dead right where he shot it, almost instantly.
The .30-30 isn't lightweight just because it is an older cartridge. It works if the man behind the buttstock does his job.